RE: Would you do it?
May 2, 2011 at 9:35 am
(This post was last modified: May 2, 2011 at 9:36 am by Zenith.)
(April 25, 2011 at 7:32 pm)theVOID Wrote: So you're fine with killing someone to further your own agenda given that:"moral"? what do you understand of "moral"?
1. You are in a bad position and
2. They are in a position much better than your own
How can you possibly justify that as a moral decision?
look a question:
if you were needed to kill (e.g. with nuclear bombs) 2 million people to save the planet with the rest of its inhabitants, would you do it? it would be you killing 2 million people vs all die but not by your hand; If you killed them, do you think you would afterwards blame yourself or be blamed of committing a genocide? (all know why you did it and that you've saved them). So, would it be "moral" to kill 2 million people?
Anyway, if for a man, "good" is whatever is good for him, and "bad" is whatever is bad for him, then why should it be "bad" for him to kill a rich man? (if nothing bad would ever happen to him). Would you really live the rest of your life as a garbage (eating trash, being always starved, sleeping on garbage, getting and living with lots of diseases, freezing during winter, etc.) only to know that you never killed anybody? Or, what's the difference between killing a rich man in this situation and killing in vengeance/rage somebody that did evil to you? Isn't it "murder" in both situations? Isn't it the "life of a man" in both situations? Or if it's about punishing someone with the death sentence (or killing with your own hands a man that has tortured and killed your own son/daughter), isn't it "the life of a man" we're talking about? If there are situations when you would kill somebody (as you said in a previous post), what is your right to decide who worths to live and who worths to die? Where is the moral in this?? Moreover, what should be "good" and what should be "bad"? and why?
Quote:So because you lost all your wealth in a freak accident, and this man gained all his wealth through, say, the lottery, it would become "fair" for you to murder him? Why? Because you worked hard and gained fuck all in return? How exactly is that "fair"?Well, if I was a homeless beggar for years and I got in such a situation, most surely the last thing I could ever think about would be "fair"-ness. Anyway, don't imagine that in my current situation I would kill somebody to gain his wealth, just because he is much richer than me: I have what to eat, where to sleep, I don't freeze to death during winter, etc. so I wouldn't think about killing somebody to get his wealth. On the other hand, I don't believe I'd live for years as a homeless beggar. Most surely I'd kill myself after a week, if I'd see no hope of a better future (better not to live, than to live a garbage life). But, in the rather absurd situation that I lived for years as a homeless beggar without ever deciding to suicide, I wouldn't see things the same way as I see nowadays, and most surely I'd kill that rich man in order for me to have a life once again.
Also, someone who wins the lottery deserves "nothing"? Not even their life?