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Can a xtian god be free?
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RE: Can a xtian god be free?
(April 26, 2011 at 1:50 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I gave that link as a foundation reference. To establish that the 'Three religions' are one and the same.
Sorry, but the ten commandments do not suggest that all these three religions are one and the same.

Anyway, I should add to this the fact that:
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments#Islam)
1. In Islam there is no section "the 10 commandments" or something. These commandments are barely found throughout the Qur'an, at random places;
2. The second commandment is quite different than the Christian/Jewish version: "idol" usually means "false god", whereas in the Christian/Jewish version, the prohibition here is to make an image to God or to a god. Plus, The second 'commandment' is not even a commandment in the Qur'an.
3. The Qur'an does not say "thou shalt not take God's name in vain", but only not to make a false oath with the name of Allah.
4. The 9th commandment is not quite "do not bear false witness" in the Qur'an, but "to tell everything".
5. The 10th commandment is not a personal thing (thou shalt not covet what X has) but a country thing (ye shall not covet what other peoples have).

Quote:Ergo should the Qur'an promote the "beating of wives" this has been plagiarised from the other two, right down to the central Ten Commandments of all three religions.
Seriously? Please tell me, what commandment of the ten does suggest beating of wives?

Quote:Now should you investigate further you will find similar edicts from Babylonian and Sumerian sacred texts.
I understand that you've studied about them. Perhaps you can ease my work and give me a link or something (so I would not search a lot).

Quote:It has been my observation that when a group wish to conquer another the first thing they do is "Demonise" the opponents gods/ god (=leaders). To ensure "their god is a bigger bully" than their opponents they anthropomorphisise the worst of human atrocities onto their deity of choice which is tantamount to saying... "See? If our god is such a 'Bad-Arse bastard' what makes you think that his followers are going to be a pushover?"
It escaped my observation. Christianity considered all other gods as false, so there was usually no need to show them as evil. As about polytheistic countries, the religions usually merged: the god of war from people X already existed in people Y but with different name, so it was the same god! attributes and stories got combined, etc. Also, when the war was regarded as "our gods vs. your gods", the conquerors viewed their gods as the strong conquering gods, while the defeated gods as the weak gods that should not be worshiped any longer, because they could not protect their people (and we have stronger gods here!).

Quote:In this way the Judeo-Xtian-Islamic god is not free as you or I, nor what we would expect from an immortal deity to be free
Sorry, I don't understand. How do you get from the 10 commandments or from the history of gods/religions or from the resemblance between Judaism, Christianity and Islam, that God is not free?
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Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - March 15, 2011 at 1:57 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2011 at 2:05 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Thor - March 15, 2011 at 3:47 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - March 16, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - March 18, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - March 19, 2011 at 7:28 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - March 19, 2011 at 8:53 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - March 20, 2011 at 12:47 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - March 20, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by theVOID - March 15, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Minimalist - March 15, 2011 at 3:28 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Anomalocaris - March 15, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by The Omnissiunt One - March 15, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by theVOID - March 15, 2011 at 4:16 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by padraic - March 15, 2011 at 7:14 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by theVOID - March 15, 2011 at 7:19 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Anomalocaris - March 15, 2011 at 7:21 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by theVOID - March 15, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - March 18, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2011 at 7:58 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2011 at 9:05 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by everythingafter - April 14, 2011 at 4:46 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - March 20, 2011 at 10:44 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2011 at 11:08 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - March 20, 2011 at 11:57 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by reverendjeremiah - March 20, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2011 at 12:24 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - March 20, 2011 at 9:31 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by reverendjeremiah - March 20, 2011 at 5:39 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - March 20, 2011 at 5:43 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by reverendjeremiah - March 20, 2011 at 6:45 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - March 20, 2011 at 8:34 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - March 21, 2011 at 4:01 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2011 at 4:06 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - March 21, 2011 at 4:35 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - March 21, 2011 at 4:51 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by reverendjeremiah - March 21, 2011 at 3:03 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Godschild - April 10, 2011 at 5:08 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Captain Scarlet - April 14, 2011 at 4:03 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by KichigaiNeko - April 10, 2011 at 6:09 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Godschild - April 10, 2011 at 11:57 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - April 11, 2011 at 7:30 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by KichigaiNeko - April 12, 2011 at 2:45 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - April 12, 2011 at 7:54 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by KichigaiNeko - April 15, 2011 at 12:13 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - April 17, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by KichigaiNeko - April 18, 2011 at 4:18 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - April 25, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Cinjin - April 11, 2011 at 1:51 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Statler Waldorf - April 11, 2011 at 4:19 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by reverendjeremiah - April 11, 2011 at 7:25 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2011 at 5:45 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by everythingafter - April 14, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - April 15, 2011 at 3:43 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by everythingafter - April 15, 2011 at 11:11 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - April 15, 2011 at 6:33 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by everythingafter - April 16, 2011 at 12:53 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - April 16, 2011 at 5:04 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by everythingafter - April 19, 2011 at 11:21 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by everythingafter - April 20, 2011 at 7:27 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by fr0d0 - April 21, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 1:50 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - May 2, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by KichigaiNeko - May 5, 2011 at 2:22 am
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - May 9, 2011 at 7:06 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Zenith - May 9, 2011 at 8:24 pm
RE: Can a xtian god be free? - by Ryft - May 14, 2011 at 4:24 am

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