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Osama may be dead.
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RE: Osama may be dead.
Sae Wrote:My gods... that is a sick contortion on the definition of propaganda.

It does not have to be organized (though it cannot escape bias). It is a term for information presented that supports or denies a thing. Said information does not have to be true or to have gone through the rigors of scientific evidence.

Nonsense, propaganda is information skewed to support an ideological agenda. If you simply have information supporting or rejecting a proposition it is not propaganda, it is simply confirmatory or contrary information - Fossils are not propaganda for evolution, but if I showed videos of creationists acting like 'apes' and then concluded "See, Evolution is true" THAT would be propaganda.

Quote:My mother feeds me propaganda that vegetables are good for me and that's why I have to eat them. Propaganda doesn't need any sort of evidence backing, can be true or untrue, and can be presented by either individuals or groups.

No, it would be propaganda if your mother showed you pictures of people with Gangrene and then said "If you don't want that you have to eat your vegetables". If she is simply giving you information that genuinely supports a position then there is no propaganda.

Quote:Propaganda is *information*. Don't cloud it up as some sort of necessarily evil being designed solely to mislead for sake of some political or social ideal.

Propaganda is a form of information, but they are NOT synonyms. Propaganda is a subset of information designed explicitly to bypass a fair consideration of the facts to promote an ideological position.

I DID NOT say it was necessarily evil, you could make an ad campaign saying that people who don't donate to charity will get aids, it might help gather donations... It's not evil but it's not ethical either. Any time you are playing to someone's emotions to get them to come to a conclusion that you simply could not persuade them of with an unbiased account of the facts you are using propaganda.

For instance, you could not convince someone with an unbiased account of the facts that vaccines cause autism, so in order to promote that particular ideological agenda people resort to biased and emotionally targeted campaigns and slogans, videos of mothers crying over their autistic children, associating everyone who disagrees as being a 'stooge for big pharma' etc in order to propagate (that is the key word) an agenda.
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Osama may be dead. - by Rev. Rye - May 1, 2011 at 10:51 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by tackattack - May 1, 2011 at 10:57 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by thesummerqueen - May 1, 2011 at 11:05 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Violet - May 2, 2011 at 12:19 am
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by ib.me.ub - May 3, 2011 at 1:46 am
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 2, 2011 at 12:05 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Shell B - May 2, 2011 at 12:41 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Violet - May 2, 2011 at 12:51 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Violet - May 2, 2011 at 12:57 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Violet - May 2, 2011 at 1:16 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Doubting Thomas - May 2, 2011 at 1:02 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Doubting Thomas - May 2, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Violet - May 2, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 2, 2011 at 1:26 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by theVOID - May 2, 2011 at 10:30 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Violet - May 2, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 2, 2011 at 6:57 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by DeistPaladin - May 2, 2011 at 8:50 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Skipper - May 2, 2011 at 7:18 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Violet - May 2, 2011 at 8:48 pm
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Shell B - May 2, 2011 at 8:47 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 2, 2011 at 10:04 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 2, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Shell B - May 2, 2011 at 11:01 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Evilution - May 3, 2011 at 12:53 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by theVOID - May 3, 2011 at 1:07 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Cinjin - May 3, 2011 at 3:36 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 3, 2011 at 1:32 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by DeistPaladin - May 3, 2011 at 8:16 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Anomalocaris - May 3, 2011 at 8:46 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 3, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Anomalocaris - May 3, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by theVOID - May 3, 2011 at 1:39 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 3, 2011 at 1:41 am
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RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 3, 2011 at 4:30 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Gawdzilla - May 3, 2011 at 8:45 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Gawdzilla - May 3, 2011 at 9:06 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Doubting Thomas - May 3, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by fr0d0 - May 3, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 3, 2011 at 4:10 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Ace Otana - May 3, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Anomalocaris - May 3, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 3, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Ace Otana - May 3, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 3, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Ace Otana - May 3, 2011 at 5:04 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 3, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Ace Otana - May 3, 2011 at 5:37 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 3, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Ace Otana - May 3, 2011 at 6:06 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by DeistPaladin - May 3, 2011 at 9:29 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 3, 2011 at 6:11 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by theVOID - May 3, 2011 at 6:23 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by HeyItsZeus - May 3, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 3, 2011 at 7:04 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by padraic - May 3, 2011 at 8:34 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by thesummerqueen - May 3, 2011 at 10:00 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by thesummerqueen - May 3, 2011 at 11:50 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by ib.me.ub - May 3, 2011 at 11:57 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 3, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Anomalocaris - May 4, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 4, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by DeistPaladin - May 4, 2011 at 3:08 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by thesummerqueen - May 4, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by DeistPaladin - May 4, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 4, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Anomalocaris - May 4, 2011 at 5:26 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Anomalocaris - May 4, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by thesummerqueen - May 4, 2011 at 2:23 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Anomalocaris - May 4, 2011 at 2:27 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by thesummerqueen - May 4, 2011 at 2:28 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by thesummerqueen - May 4, 2011 at 3:28 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Doubting Thomas - May 4, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Ace Otana - May 4, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 4, 2011 at 5:28 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by DeistPaladin - May 4, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Anomalocaris - May 4, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 7, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 7, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 7, 2011 at 11:35 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 5, 2011 at 1:06 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 5, 2011 at 1:16 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by fr0d0 - May 5, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Doubting Thomas - May 5, 2011 at 5:44 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 7, 2011 at 5:43 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 7, 2011 at 6:27 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 7, 2011 at 6:38 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by padraic - May 7, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 7, 2011 at 7:22 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 7, 2011 at 9:47 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 7, 2011 at 11:38 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 7, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by padraic - May 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 7, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by reverendjeremiah - May 7, 2011 at 11:45 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by thesummerqueen - May 7, 2011 at 11:11 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by padraic - May 8, 2011 at 12:55 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Skipper - May 8, 2011 at 4:07 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Rayaan - May 8, 2011 at 5:43 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by DeistPaladin - May 8, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Minimalist - May 8, 2011 at 2:02 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Cinjin - May 8, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Skipper - May 9, 2011 at 2:57 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by padraic - May 9, 2011 at 3:45 am
RE: Osama may be dead. - by Skipper - May 9, 2011 at 4:38 am
Osama Bin Laden is Dead - by DeistPaladin - May 1, 2011 at 11:32 pm
RE: Osama Bin Laden is Dead - by Rev. Rye - May 1, 2011 at 11:39 pm

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