Evidence for Jesus Christ?

[reverendjeremiah]

Maybe the numbering of our current calender is of some importance. How many nobodies get there birthday enumerated around the world.

LMFAO - Wednesday = Wodens day. Thursday = Thor's day.

Maybe consider what Jesus taught as being so different from the other religious entities you may have studied. .

1. Jesus did not kill anybody.

Bullcrap

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me.

Not to mention he claims he is the old testament God, which not only ordered rapes and killings, but killed people himself. Killed children with a bear, killed a man for picking up sticks to cook for his children, I can go on and on.

2. Jesus taught wisdom about love and kindness that is admireable.

LMFAO, dude, you must be selectively reading that bible. Last I checked he commanded his believers to kill anyone who didnt want Jesus to be lord over their lives. That isnt love and kindness

3. Jesus did not want us to kill anybody.

Except those who refused to worship him, and if he is also the oldtestament god, then he has a HUGE list of people he wants killed. Everything on the ten commandments is punishable by death, yes, including the specific command to stone children to death who refuse to honor their father. Jesus even comes down in his flying horse in Revelations and personally cuts off the heads of many unbelievers INCLUDING THEIR SLAVES (who had no choice).

4. Forgiveness is a wonderful concept and only someone filled with love would want to demonstrate that..

A god who creates Hell has no idea of forgiveness. Hell is so full of love, wisdom and kindness.

5. This man was humble..

Sure..I tend to consider those who try to claim they are a god who deserves to be worshipped as "humble"

6. The wonderful concepts and ways to live that Jesus displayed are too true to come from someone who would
lie about the rest of what He taught..

I think he could outright lie in your face and you would ignore it just as long as he made you think that you will be going to heaven when you died.

If a man taught about standards that we have to struggle to accomplish, even if we know the ideals are true, where did His great wisdom come from.

Its idiots staements like this that helped me move away from christianity

Jesus did not teach the old testament. Jesus referred to the old only to compare with something which was not needed anymore. The old testament is where most of the killing and unfair things are found that most of us may agree is not a good place to demonstrate love.

Matthew 5:17= "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." So yes, he fully supported the old testament laws and stories. Which means you are either an ignorant asshat or a liar.

I mention these things not to establish historically documented evidence,

Because you cant

but instead offer reasons to accept the validity of higher ideals for which we are in search in guidance for our life.

You are actually asking me to accept LOWER ideals than the one I already have if I were to accept Jesus. Life is what I make it, not what someone tells me to do.

Are the values that Jesus taught worth following?

Nope.

We value love, kindness, patience, humility, honesty, virtue, etc.

I dont see ANY of this when I read the gospels.

These and other ideals are what Jesus taught. If someone like He could teach these admireable things, I believe that it would not be hard for me to believe the rest of what He taught.

Humans have taught these exact same things thousands of years before Jesus was invented..so, you are a liar. I know for a fact you will not believe the other things they said because of it. Another liar for christ..its quite common actually.

It is a matter of trust. What liar would spend so much of His life teaching all of these ideals. If history can't prove who he is, then try out the contents of His wisdom. The more I test these things, the more trust I can put into the unproveable things that He said. That is the faith part(trust part)

Obviously you would. You would make shit up as you go. Which is pretty much what you are doing now. Making shit up as you go is what liars do. And from reading this post, I have LESS trust in your "testing" of things.