Can a xtian god be free?

[KichigaiNeko]

I gave that link as a foundation reference. To establish that the 'Three religions' are one and the same.

Sorry, but the ten commandments do not suggest that all these three religions are one and the same.

Oh dear here we go.......

And how do you come to that conclusion???

Anyway, I should add to this the fact that:
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments#Islam)
1. In Islam there is no section "the 10 commandments" or something. These commandments are barely found throughout the Qur'an, at random places;

Funny how the torah does the same thing

2. The second commandment is quite different than the Christian/Jewish version: "idol" usually means "false god", whereas in the Christian/Jewish version, the prohibition here is to make an image to God or to a god. Plus, The second 'commandment' is not even a commandment in the Qur'an.

I am to understand that the Qu'ran and Hadiths state clearly that many images of Allah and Muhammad (his prophet) abound in the islamic countries then??

3. The Qur'an does not say "thou shalt not take God's name in vain", but only not to make a false oath with the name of Allah.

Which IS saying the same thing

4. The 9th commandment is not quite "do not bear false witness" in the Qur'an, but "to tell everything".

Very good dear again it is saying the same thing

5. The 10th commandment is not a personal thing (thou shalt not covet what X has) but a country thing (ye shall not covet what other peoples have).

Same thing again......yawn*

Ergo should the Qur'an promote the "beating of wives" this has been plagiarised from the other two, right down to the central Ten Commandments of all three religions.

Seriously? Please tell me, what commandment of the ten does suggest beating of wives?

Very nice to ignore everything I have been trying to tell you...check Deuteronomy, Exodus, Leviticus. Like the Qu'ran the Torah and Bible a littered with these self same gems of how to treat ones wife/ wives, slaves, children, cattle/ livestock. All three promote the masculine dream of ownership.

Now should you investigate further you will find similar edicts from Babylonian and Sumerian sacred texts.

I understand that you've studied about them. Perhaps you can ease my work and give me a link or something (so I would not search a lot).

Do your own searching my friend

It has been my observation that when a group wish to conquer another the first thing they do is "Demonise" the opponents gods/ god (=leaders). To ensure "their god is a bigger bully" than their opponents they anthropomorphisise the worst of human atrocities onto their deity of choice which is tantamount to saying... "See? If our god is such a 'Bad-Arse bastard' what makes you think that his followers are going to be a pushover?"

It escaped my observation. Christianity considered all other gods as false, so there was usually no need to show them as evil. As about polytheistic countries, the religions usually merged: the god of war from people X already existed in people Y but with different name, so it was the same god! attributes and stories got combined, etc. Also, when the war was regarded as "our gods vs. your gods", the conquerors viewed their gods as the strong conquering gods, while the defeated gods as the weak gods that should not be worshiped any longer, because they could not protect their people (and we have stronger gods here!).

That is because you do not observe well and have the handicap of english not being your first language. Christianity plagiarised the 'pagan' religions of western Europe and took ALL of the feast days as it's own.

Thankyou ...you have proved my point.

In this way the Judeo-Xtian-Islamic god is not free as you or I, nor what we would expect from an immortal deity to be free

Sorry, I don't understand. How do you get from the 10 commandments or from the history of gods/religions or from the resemblance between Judaism, Christianity and Islam, that God is not free?

I read alot and so should you. From the 10 Commandments to every thing in the Traditional texts of the Abrahamic religions ....there are many authors imposing their will on their god. Using their god as the scape goat for their crimes and cruelty...it is a human thing.