RE: You must seek something else, or something is seriously wrong with you
August 6, 2016 at 11:27 am
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2016 at 11:29 am by robvalue.)
I can't make much sense of most of this, but I'll tackle a few points:
Considering hardly any theists can even define what "god" means, how could I possibly search for it? I wouldn't know it if I found it. And also considering any attempts at definition hide it from any sort of science, I couldn't search for it even if I wanted to. God is rather better equipped to find me, I would expect. If its idea of fun is celestial hide and seek, I have better things to do with my time. It doesn't help that it has glued me to a rock in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by lethal atmosphere.
Reality is about logic. Imagination can be whatever you want. Dreams, wishes and emotions are not reliable indicators of reality.
Abandoning logic is a big mistake. For a start, you can't draw any conclusions. That requires logic. You've thrown away all your tools.
Sin is an imaginary concept created by religions to shame people into obedience. It works, sadly.
It should? That sounds like an expectation, not an observation about reality. This has nothing to do with truth. Pledging allegiance to a load of tribal myths does nothing to alter what happens after you die. What you find reasonable has no bearing on what is true.
(August 5, 2016 at 11:42 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The classic argument/excuse goes like this: how do I know that God exists? why would I search for such an existence?
Considering hardly any theists can even define what "god" means, how could I possibly search for it? I wouldn't know it if I found it. And also considering any attempts at definition hide it from any sort of science, I couldn't search for it even if I wanted to. God is rather better equipped to find me, I would expect. If its idea of fun is celestial hide and seek, I have better things to do with my time. It doesn't help that it has glued me to a rock in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by lethal atmosphere.
Quote:It's not always about logic. In many times it's about will,dreams and wishes. People don't want heaven and hell; but want "neverland" and "pokemon go"; need a place where one is never judged for their sins.
Reality is about logic. Imagination can be whatever you want. Dreams, wishes and emotions are not reliable indicators of reality.
Abandoning logic is a big mistake. For a start, you can't draw any conclusions. That requires logic. You've thrown away all your tools.
Quote:Everybody kisses sins.
Sin is an imaginary concept created by religions to shame people into obedience. It works, sadly.
Quote:Life itself should lead you to seek another life, a better life, a life that only exists in the stories told by religions.
Here is where one seeks the truth; learns about God, and in a moment of true divine guidance that person chooses Islam.
It should? That sounds like an expectation, not an observation about reality. This has nothing to do with truth. Pledging allegiance to a load of tribal myths does nothing to alter what happens after you die. What you find reasonable has no bearing on what is true.
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