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What if Jesus died for his own sins?
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RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins?
(August 18, 2016 at 3:21 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: In reading the Bible the main villain is certainly Jehovah.  No one has killed more people for no apparent reason.  No one makes more demands to be worshiped.  No one "burns with anger" more than Jehovah.  Also, he is a jealous god.  I think these are all sinful things.

Let's not forget that if there is any being in the Judeo-Christian universe capable of committing infinitely many sins, it's Jehovah.

Perhaps Jehovah is actually respectable in that he only holds himself accountable, and he doesn't hold us accountable for what we do (especially considering that he is omniscient and that he made us).  So maybe Jesus' death was really just Jehovah punishing himself so that he wouldn't be a hypocrite.
An interesting retelling of a familiar tale, perhaps.

Quote:Can this perhaps be the core principle of a Christian denomination?  
Unfortunately, no, because christ is a title and a job description - not a name.  It could be a core principle of a cult in the periphery...just as christianity is not judaism.  

Quote: After all, it's already been proven that if Jesus was supposedly dying for our own sins then his sacrifice is pointless because God is above the law anyway (as evidenced by the fact that he breaks his own law all the time) and so being above the law he can just forgive sins without need of ritualistic blood sacrifice.  I think that, on Christianity, the logical conclusion is that Jesus died for his own sins.

See, there's the trouble.....you think that logic applies to magic.   Wink
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What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Nihilist Virus - August 18, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Arkilogue - August 18, 2016 at 11:14 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by abaris - August 18, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Jesster - August 18, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2016 at 4:32 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Nihilist Virus - August 18, 2016 at 10:57 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by vorlon13 - August 19, 2016 at 12:18 am
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by vorlon13 - August 26, 2016 at 7:27 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by abaris - August 26, 2016 at 7:31 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by vorlon13 - August 26, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by abaris - August 26, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by KevinM1 - August 26, 2016 at 8:15 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by PETE_ROSE - August 26, 2016 at 8:20 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by abaris - August 26, 2016 at 8:40 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Joods - August 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by vorlon13 - August 26, 2016 at 11:16 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Joods - August 26, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Arkilogue - August 27, 2016 at 12:25 am
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Arkilogue - August 27, 2016 at 12:36 am
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Minimalist - August 27, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 27, 2016 at 12:38 am
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Whateverist - August 27, 2016 at 12:41 am
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by vorlon13 - August 27, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Minimalist - August 27, 2016 at 1:55 am
RE: What if Jesus died for his own sins? - by Whateverist - August 27, 2016 at 11:01 am

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