(August 29, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(August 29, 2016 at 5:44 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think it's more complex than that.Oh, elaborate?
Quote:it isn't as if there's no game of thrones style game playing in Islam. Islam has been fragmented from day one.
Who said there wasn't...who said it wasn't...why is this relevant? "Herp derp islam sucked/sucks too". No shit.......?
You were saying that the History of Christianity was holding back scientific achievement until these game of thrones type events happened killing enough of them off leaving not enough of them to hold the thumb screws.
It seems like an illogical evaluation of what happened.
Reason 1) It isn't unique to Christianity to have internal wars with different sects within the religion. Christianity is no different from Islam in terms of it being a fact that both religions are fractured. Yet game of thrones style internal fighting has never stopped Islam from having a firm grip of theological power over certain countries. At least relative to Christianity.
Reason 2) It seems over simplified anyway to say the Christians were preventing scientific advancement until they killed each other off to the point where there were no longer enough of them to hold power.
There's always been a fairly high population of Christians in the world so surely saying there wasn't enough of them to hold power after they were at battle with each other would be incorrect.
This might be some historical event I'm unaware of, but I've never heard of this point in history when there weren't enough Christians to oppress other people anymore because they were too busy fighting each other.
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