(September 2, 2016 at 12:47 pm)Jesster Wrote:Again, It does not seem to me that you've read what I have written...(September 2, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Drich Wrote: So you didn't really I wrote..
Again, I don't have feeling one way or the other on what you personally choose for yourself. However I do support God's desire to hold you to your choice.
Again, YOUR Relationship with God has little if nothing to do with me or my desire or inclinations towards God, The only way I can even be apart of that equation is if you ask me to help you find Him for yourself. ANYTHING else is a copout/excuse or a poorly reason judgement day defense strategy. (what you think you will say to God in defense for the life you lived.) If I can see through your crap, how much more will an all knowing God?
And all I see there is "I don't hate you; the guy I worship hates you." You're guilty of hatred by association.
I'm sure there's another excuse headed my way, too.
Also, fuck you for assuming who I am is a choice.
It's not about WHO you are. It about how you identify with your sin. Do you adopt and make excuse for your sin fusing sinner with sin, or do you separate yourself from it?
That sport, is the Choice I and the bible identifies.
Again, We are all sinners all the time. The difference between the saved and unsaved are how we relate to the sin we are enslaved to. Do we love it or hate it?
Which brings me back to the illustration with addiction I made in the beginning. The one about Loving the sinner hating the sin. In that we can love an individual and hate their addiction.
Using that illustration, and applying your take on it, You are saying because you are addicted to a drug, who you are, was, and always will be, how you are defined as an individual.
If this were true, then if I were to say the names Hendricks, Presley, Jackson, Prince all you see is a list of dead addicts, that they can't be anything more than their addictions. When even in the world of moral relativism this is not true. these names represented the pinicale of a musical career. That we can love the art they made in the music they left, and lament the evil that ended their lives all too soon.
Again, separating sin from sinner. Which again is the choice we must all make for ourselves. are we more than the sins we are chained to? or does our sin define all that we are?
This is why I said YOUR CHOICE/YOUR RELATIONSHIP with God has Nothing to do with me. I do not see nor associate people with their sin, nor do I have the wherewithal to judge one better than another. It is not my place to decide for you whether or not you can self identify past the sin, that you (like me) are stuck in.