RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
September 3, 2016 at 11:35 am
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2016 at 11:36 am by Jesster.)
(September 3, 2016 at 11:10 am)Drich Wrote: Christianity Says SIN IS NOT!!!! A CHOICE. We All Sin All The Time!!!Great. Tangents after misinterpreting me and/or not bothering to try understanding. I don't think you could project any more.
THE CHOICE IS MAKING THE SIN APART OF WHO YOU ARE, or rebel against it.
We Choose To Either Adopt The Sin, Or Reject It By Repenting Of It. At No Point Do We Ever Say We Can Be Free From It.
All of the 'stuff that was way off topic' explained this!
You btw can not or will not identify as anything or anyone other than your sin!
So when someone speaks negatively about your sin they speak negitivly about you. I am the oppsite. My sin does not define who I am. Yes I am still a slave to sin, but I am not defined by it. I hate my sin, yet still can love and respect myself. In turn I can also show the same grace to others as God has shown me, when the do decide to choose to separate themselves from their sin.
I am not identifying myself as a sinner. Christians are. I am just saying that my lifestyle that Christians often label as sinful is not a choice. There is nothing wrong with who I am and what I do, so there's nothing to repent for. However, Christians will claim that there's something wrong because the voice in their heads tell them there is, yet they won't bother providing any further evidence for why it is actually wrong. They then tell me that I will burn in hell unless I change my so-called "sinful life" and then claim that they love me. No. They (and you) are creating a problem when there is no actual problem. There's no love
(September 3, 2016 at 11:10 am)Drich Wrote: It is not an unforgivable sin.And yet you give me a choice between two things you call sin and claim I need to beg for forgiveness no matter which one I choose.
(September 3, 2016 at 11:10 am)Drich Wrote: I'm sorry I'm confused. or either your confused.. What make you think God owes you 'love' as you define it?Yes, you are quite confused about a great many things. I don't think your god owes me anything because I don't believe it exists. You are, however, claiming that there is love and I am saying there's nothing but hypocrisy there.
(September 3, 2016 at 11:10 am)Drich Wrote: What "sky Daddy thinks" of His lost son or daughter is outlined in the story of the prodigal son. Do you know this story? In turn You are right because I support God in what He does I also see you as He sees you. Which is why I am taking the time to try and tell you how to "find your way back home."Yes, I've read and studied the bible. I don't believe a word of it though, so I don't care. I am perfectly fine where I am and I don't appreciate the passive-aggressive insults in an attempt to manipulate me. I've been in an abusive relationship before and that is one of the most-used tactics. That's not love. It's control.
(September 3, 2016 at 11:10 am)Drich Wrote: Of course it didn't.. That is why it is called a strawman argument. If however you with to actually address the points I brought up found in scripture, you might find your 'that was easy argument' does not apply in any way shape or form.No, it's not a straw man. I am replying exactly to the Christian approach to me as well as the excuses you personally apply to it. I don't think you know what a straw man argument is.
(September 3, 2016 at 11:10 am)Drich Wrote: The comparison is closer than you think. The only reason I used the example of an Addict is because your 'morality' is ever shifting with very few if any absolutes. But, even if philosophically you can not call addiction to a drug a sin you can't justify or approve the absolute devastation that trying to love an addict rains down on the addict, and the family. This devastation is how God sees all sin. So again even if you can justify and dismiss all sin philosophically, most if not all of us can relate to the pain addiction can cause. And most of can also relate how to seperate the sin/addiction from the love of the family member who is addicted.
Insulting me again with the immoral drug addict comparison? Shove it up your ass, you piece of shit. This is why atheists do not like Christians like you.
I don't believe you. Get over it.