hate the sin, love the sinner

[Drich]

Great. Tangents after misinterpreting me and/or not bothering to try understanding. I don't think you could project any more.

...And what if they are not tangents? That would mean you still do not understand or acknoweledge that not only to I recognize your argument I have moved past your points, but you can't.

I am not identifying myself as a sinner.

Read what I wrote again, I know you can not separate your sin from who you are as a person.

Christians are. I am just saying that my lifestyle that Christians often label as sinful is not a choice.

Again I know. The sin I have in my life is not a choice. The "Choice" has nothing to do with abstaining from sin!!! Why can't you wrap your head around this?
Are you not reading what I'm actually writing or are you just responding to what you think my argument should be rather than what it is I am actually saying???

There is nothing wrong with who I am and what I do, so there's nothing to repent for.

That justification... Not the sin but the justification for your sin is the choice I am talking about sport!

However, Christians will claim that there's something wrong because the voice in their heads tell them there is, yet they won't bother providing any further evidence for why it is actually wrong.

Not true. Evidence is provided, but it is also summarily dismissed. So it is not a matter of lack of evidence it is a matter of lack of desire to identify sin.

They then tell me that I will burn in hell unless I change my so-called "sinful life" and then claim that they love me. No. They (and you) are creating a problem when there is no actual problem. There's no love

Where have I told you this?
See you are arguing what it is you think I should be saying, not what I have actually said.

It is not an unforgivable sin.

And yet you give me a choice between two things you call sin and claim I need to beg for forgiveness no matter which one I choose.

citation please. Where did I say this? Or AGAIN Are you not simply arguing what it is you think my position is rather than what my stated position has always been?

Yes, you are quite confused about a great many things. I don't think your god owes me anything because I don't believe it exists. You are, however, claiming that there is love and I am saying there's nothing but hypocrisy there.

Where did I say their is love? Or again are you arguing what it is you think my position should be rather than what I have stated?

Of course it didn't.. That is why it is called a strawman argument. If however you with to actually address the points I brought up found in scripture, you might find your 'that was easy argument' does not apply in any way shape or form.

No, it's not a straw man. I am replying exactly to the Christian approach to me as well as the excuses you personally apply to it. I don't think you know what a straw man argument is.

But again, IS THE CHRISTIAN APPROACH you've been arguing against, what I have been discussing with you?

You 'feel' I been saying:
your sin is a choice
God "loves" you
You will go to Hell if you do not change your actions
That you are like a drug addict.

Would it supprize you if EVERYTHING you think is wrong?

What if I've been saying:

Your sin is NOT a choice
(That you like me are a slave to sin according to scripture)

That God does not love you
(God offers you Agape', not love as you know it)

That you can enter Heaven despite your actions
(Works is not what justifies you before God)

That even if you are to stupid or stubborn to admit to sin being a "thing" No one can argue that the pain a drug addict can bring to a family. And that even if You do have an addict in the family one can learn to still love and separate the actions of the addict from the individual the addiction controls.
(In this sense WE ARE ALL ADDICTS)

No wonder you think I am speaking off topic... You think it is my job to chase after and defend the straw men you have spent a life in hate towards God building, when in fact it is my 'job' to show you that your ideas of 'Christianity' are over inflated and do not represent the values nor the system of forgiveness as outlined in scripture.

How do I know this to be true??? Look at the evidence sport... You are speaking to what you believe Christian values should be, and I have never once even remotely supported what you've outlined my argument to be. You are so far off base your have wrongly assumed that I am speaking off topic...

Here's a thought... Maybe It Is YOU, Who does understand the core principles of what it is you are in full rebellion against.

Insulting me again with the immoral drug addict comparison? Shove it up your ass, you piece of shit. This is why atheists do not like Christians like you.

I have worked with atheist for almost 10 years... The reason they do not like me (as you are finding out) is because their off the shelf reasoning for disbelief in God gets shot down quickly with me, and to remain in their disbelief, they have to rely on faith to maintain their position of disbelief/Hate. They have to expend the same if not a greater measure of faith required to stay in a state of disbelief than it is required for God to give them all the 'evidence' the need.