hate the sin, love the sinner

[Drich]

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...And what if they are not tangents? That would mean you still do not understand or acknoweledge that not only to I recognize your argument I have moved past your points, but you can't.

Read what I wrote again, I know you can not separate your sin from who you are as a person.
Again I know. The sin I have in my life is not a choice. The "Choice" has nothing to do with abstaining from sin!!! Why can't you wrap your head around this?
Are you not reading what I'm actually writing or are you just responding to what you think my argument should be rather than what it is I am actually saying???
That justification... Not the sin but the justification for your sin is the choice I am talking about sport!

Not true. Evidence is provided, but it is also summarily dismissed. So it is not a matter of lack of evidence it is a matter of lack of desire to identify sin.

Where have I told you this?
See you are arguing what it is you think I should be saying, not what I have actually said.

citation please. Where did I say this? Or AGAIN Are you not simply arguing what it is you think my position is rather than what my stated position has always been?

Where did I say their is love? Or again are you arguing what it is you think my position should be rather than what I have stated?

But again, IS THE CHRISTIAN APPROACH you've been arguing against, what I have been discussing with you?

You 'feel' I been saying:
your sin is a choice
God "loves" you
You will go to Hell if you do not change your actions
That you are like a drug addict.

Would it supprize you if EVERYTHING you think is wrong?

What if I've been saying:

Your sin is NOT a choice
(That you like me are a slave to sin according to scripture)

That God does not love you
(God offers you Agape', not love as you know it)

That you can enter Heaven despite your actions
(Works is not what justifies you before God)

That even if you are to stupid or stubborn to admit to sin being a "thing" No one can argue that the pain a drug addict can bring to a family. And that even if You do have an addict in the family one can learn to still love and separate the actions of the addict from the individual the addiction controls.
(In this sense WE ARE ALL ADDICTS)

No wonder you think I am speaking off topic... You think it is my job to chase after and defend the straw men you have spent a life in hate towards God building, when in fact it is my 'job' to show you that your ideas of 'Christianity' are over inflated and do not represent the values nor the system of forgiveness as outlined in scripture.

How do I know this to be true??? Look at the evidence sport... You are speaking to what you believe Christian values should be, and I have never once even remotely supported what you've outlined my argument to be. You are so far off base your have wrongly assumed that I am speaking off topic...

Here's a thought... Maybe It Is YOU, Who does understand the core principles of what it is you are in full rebellion against.

I have worked with atheist for almost 10 years... The reason they do not like me (as you are finding out) is because their off the shelf reasoning for disbelief in God gets shot down quickly with me, and to remain in their disbelief, they have to rely on faith to maintain their position of disbelief/Hate. They have to expend the same if not a greater measure of faith required to stay in a state of disbelief than it is required for God to give them all the 'evidence' the need.

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Holy shit that went all over the place. Since you are still insulting me, I will just simplify that down to you not actually loving me. That should get it back on topic and away from the spattering of moronic, hypocritical, biblical bullshit. I don't think you are capable of keeping this on topic, though, so I'm not expecting anything useful out of your next reply.

....Kinda how you've been skim reading (if you were reading at all) what I've said all along?

So to answer your charge..

What makes you think I'm supposed to "love" you as you expect to be loved? What makes you think God is supposed to "love" you that way? Or is that simply more tripe you think the christian position centers around?

As I've said from the beginning, You are not reading what I write. You are simply arguing a series of straw men of your own construction. If you truly hate God, then would it not be better for you to actually argue What God claims and decrees in scripture and not a pop religion based straw man?

Understand, God does not nor has ever offered to love any of us in the way we demand. God offer Agape' (here is where you ask a question.)