(September 7, 2016 at 2:56 pm)RobertE Wrote:Arabs invaded North on their way to conquer Europe. Yes, they ruled Spain for 800 years, and perhaps they didn't force, however, all those who wanted to stay with their faith had to pay a special tax. Furthermore, it was the Inquisition that wiped out most of the Jews, especially the conversos. Muslims ruled India through the use of violence where an estimated 100 million Indians paid a heavy price for staying with their religion.(September 7, 2016 at 2:51 pm)Harris Wrote: Is there any person in the world who believe that a single man with a sword in hand had spread Islam in the community of blood thirsty pagans of 7th century Arabia?
Well! Prophet Mohammad was a single person but bare handed when he had started preaching Islam among ignorant and illiterate Arabs. Eight years Prophet Mohammad and his followers had faced ruthless violence of pagans yet not a single incident in history is on the record that may show any act of retaliation. Even at the time when Prophet Mohammad entered Mecca after conquering it, not a single pagan was killed or punished.
“The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one. In one man’s head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can.”
“Heroes and Hero worship”
Thomas Carlyle (historian)
“History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated.”
Page 8
“Islam at the cross road”
De Lacy O’Leary (historian)
Few facts as evidence that Islam was spread and is spreading without any use of force.
1. Indonesia has maximum number of Muslims in the world and majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. Can anyone tell which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia and made all those people Muslims.
2. Similarly, people in the Eastern Coasts of Africa voluntarily accepted Islam without facing any Muslim army.
3. It is false to say that people have accepted Islam due to threat of a sword. They accepted Islam willingly and without being supressed by any Muslim. Evidence to this fact is Arabs who are Coptic Christians and Jews and living side by side with the Muslim since the time of Prophet Mohammad.
4. Muslims ruled Spain for 800 years. In the entire period of their governing they had never forced people to accept Islam. By the way that was the golden age for Jews in Europe. Later, regrettably, Crusaders had wiped out both Muslims and Jews in the Spanish land.
5. Muslims also ruled India for about a thousand years. Today more than 80% population of India are non-Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the use of force.
6. Today the fastest growing religion in Europe and America, by conversion, is Islam. Which Muslim army is forcing Europeans and Americans to accept Islam?
(Bolded bit is mine)
No need to say more. That is how religion is spread. You have one clever person, and the rest are sheep who fall for the rest of the horseshit bollocks that some nomade spouts. That is how all religions started. Thanks to Darwin and others, we can think for ourselves and are no longer sheep which is a threat to religion all over the world. Give everyone access to the WWW, and religion will fall like a deck of cards in the wind.
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