RE: Do you see any benefits to religious faith?
September 12, 2016 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2016 at 4:28 pm by Arkilogue.)
(September 12, 2016 at 8:06 am)robvalue Wrote: Why is it always assumed a creator is benevolent? Where does that come from?Perhaps all that cold empty space radiated by starlight is required to naturally form DNA structure out of nebular clouds saturate with organic molecules?
Considering ~100% of our universe is toxic to us, I wouldn't say he's really that crazy about us.
@ 4:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kanYuBptuZ0
Even better around a star that has circularly polarized light which favor only left or right handed molecules.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1...r-circles/
(September 12, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:(September 11, 2016 at 8:01 pm)Jesster Wrote: And this, Tazzycorn and Stimbo, is why I said a while ago that it's a waste of time to respond to Arki. This thread has painted that picture perfectly.
I'm not doing this to respond to arkilogue, really. I'm doing it to keep pointing out how anti-science he is.
Plus, it is amusing seeing him tie himself in knots trying to make out he didn't say what he said, just like his "electromagnetism didn't work like we know it works before we found out how it works" schtick.
I'm sure you can back up that accusation with the direct quote....no? Here let me be of assistance.
(August 16, 2016 at 11:17 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: And what was electromagnetism before scientists explored, worked out the math and explored the mechanics of it?
If you think current science is the end all/be all paradigm, you don't know history and you aren't doing science.
And now to back up my claim that electromagnetism was considered hocus pocus "magic" before it was scientifically understood.
http://www.howmagnetswork.com/history.html
The Greek & Chinese
The earliest discovery of the properties of lodestone was either by the Greeks or Chinese. Stories of magnetism date back to the first century B.C in the writings of Lucretius and Pliny the Elder (23-79 AD Roman). Pliny wrote of a hill near the river Indus that was made entirely of a stone that attracted iron. He mentioned the magical powers of magnetite in his writings. For many years following its discovery, magnetite was surrounded in superstition and was considered to possess magical powers, such as the ability to heal the sick, frighten away evil spirits and attract and dissolve ships made of iron!
But keep hanging on to your one misinterpreted thing, you seem to need it very badly.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
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I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder