(September 15, 2016 at 12:17 am)Arkilogue Wrote:(September 14, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Mudhammam Wrote: Right, works such as talking to the glorified bodies of Moses and Elijah on a mountain, teleporting through closed doors, and ascending all the way into the clouds! all of which were to be believed on the basis of apostolic tradition. I can hardly perceive the difference between such divine persuasion when weighed against the "pistis" which I am obliged to consider in the demonstrations of Aristotle.You're barking up the wrong tree.
Jesus allegedly preformed many miracles/healings witnessed by many at the time, several times. A crowd of 5000 according the the loaves and fishes story.
It was a demonstration of power to the people who needed it.
Do you honestly think that a story which didn't appear until, at best, two gerenations after Yeshua's claimed execution (and for which we've no direct evidence of it's existence for yet another 100 years), and which didn't achieve its canonical form for more than two hundred years more (and even at that the gospels had significant alterations appended. For example Nicaean Mark had no resurrection, it ended on the empty tomb, the ressurection was added to make it agree with the later gospels), is any standard of evidence at all?
For the sake of this question I'm temporarily setting aside that quoting the bible is restating the claim, not providing evidence, as that a whole other can of worms in your theology you're not willing to confront.
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