(September 15, 2016 at 8:16 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:No, I've stated it doesn't matter if it's bullshit our not, the contextual claim stands that the faith described in the bible in many places is divine persuasion not human persuasion. Period.(September 15, 2016 at 7:21 am)Arkilogue Wrote: And this is why context is so important:
Yes the context that you've just essentially admitted that you believe in christian doctrine because bullshit. You don't have an answer for the fact that the bible is at best a third hand hearsay account that has been significantly altered over the c. 18 centuries since the first extant examples of it, in order to better reflect the political mores and needs of the powerful at various times in history (for example KJV was written mainly to bolster Charles VI & I's* claim to have a divine right to rule absolutely, and was deliberately written in archaic English in order to try and disguise the fact that the book had been significantly altered from previous English translations).
*In previous threads I gave credit to his sun Charles VII & II in error. I was placing the book after the Civil War not before.
You don't like it's implications, I couldn't care less.
If it helps your atheistic bias, I view the bible as nearly entirely allegorical, finding damn near the same underlying characters and processes in Egyptian and Sumerian mythos. The story of "the savior son of God" is far older than 2016 years.
I'm at a place in growth of my faith that I no longer need to believe or disbelieve in the bible, any scriptural book or any cultural myth on the planet today or yesterday. But have found it them helpful.
My church is the universe.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder