(September 22, 2016 at 10:45 am)Drich Wrote:(September 22, 2016 at 10:07 am)ukatheist Wrote: Is this about riots following police shootings of black people?
I think the first point to make is, from reading postings on here, is that a large proportion of officers aren't even indicted (apologies if I'm using incorrect terminology here, the UK and US legal systems are a little different) - and therefore the opportunity for justice is limited in the first place.
The second point is that of those that do get indicted, a large proportion of those are eventually acquitted, where in different circumstances they would not (e.g. not an officer or not a black victim).
Yet there does seem to be a number of payouts from the police forces to the families of the victims, which does suggest some admission of responsibility on the part of those forces, so if the civil case is strong enough for forces to agree to settle, why aren't we seeing more indictments (and yes, I do know the standard of proof is different for civil and criminal proceedings, or at least it is in the UK).
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But again Justice is the impartial process of law. Which means if their is not enough evidence for a murder trial or any trial that accuses a cop of anything, and all charges are dropped. Justice, meaning the impartial due process of law that has the state demand a certain level of evidence before a trial is deem necessary has been served.
Again Justice is a process which in this society presumes that all accused are innocent, This includes police and not just those suspected of breaking the law. Which means there is a threshold of support/evidence that must be established in order for those accused of a crime must exceed before a formal proceeding can take place. If this threshold is not met the charges are dropped. This is JUSTICE as the following the due process of the law allows for no trial based on the specific circumstances. Again to assume all cops have committed a crime because they shoot someone are guilty of something and therefore demand punishment of some kind is not justice again that is vengeance.
You are assuming that these processes are implied impartially. I am saying that they do not appear to be, and this is why justice is not being attained.