(September 22, 2016 at 11:02 am)ukatheist Wrote:(September 22, 2016 at 10:45 am)Drich Wrote: But again Justice is the impartial process of law. Which means if their is not enough evidence for a murder trial or any trial that accuses a cop of anything, and all charges are dropped. Justice, meaning the impartial due process of law that has the state demand a certain level of evidence before a trial is deem necessary has been served.
Again Justice is a process which in this society presumes that all accused are innocent, This includes police and not just those suspected of breaking the law. Which means there is a threshold of support/evidence that must be established in order for those accused of a crime must exceed before a formal proceeding can take place. If this threshold is not met the charges are dropped. This is JUSTICE as the following the due process of the law allows for no trial based on the specific circumstances. Again to assume all cops have committed a crime because they shoot someone are guilty of something and therefore demand punishment of some kind is not justice again that is vengeance.
You are assuming that these processes are implied impartially. I am saying that they do not appear to be, and this is why justice is not being attained.
But, what is perception with out evidence? Speculation.
So again, Here with this last guy, cops said he had a gun, people on the street said he had a book. Gun was found, no book was recovered. This incident was recorded from the moment just after the shooting. Nothing recorded shows a book. The 'eye witness' who claim he had a book initially said the cop that shot him was white.
Result? Before ANY evidence is reported, Before anything could be sorted out, riots broke out...
So tell me some more how the thought is the 'justice process' is being applied impartially.
The truth is Justice is not the goal. Vengeance is. Justice demands time for a proper trial. vengeance has already made up it's mind and demands action. If justice is what is called for then why isn't sufficient time for justice allowed to be applied?
Now according to the actions of the rioters (not their words) what do they truly seek?
So then Why are we as a society allowing a blood thirsty mob go unchallenged in our streets while they are actively seeking vengeance?
Have we as a country lost all common sense?
When did acts of VENGEANCE become acceptable forms of protest? As a citizen I am allowed to shoot dead anyone trying to rob, loot, or burn down my house or business. Heck I an even shoot anyone dead trying to rob loot or burn down your house or business as well. But here the cops back off and let it burn...
Maybe, that is the ultimate irony/police way of protesting the protesters. 'You want a world with out police, we will allow you to rob, loot and burn down whatever you want, so long as you guys do it to yourselves and your communities. there, wish granted, no cops go nuts...'
Who does that hurt? the hand full of people trying to serve the community with their businesses, and the people who frequent their stores.