13 Questions

[Statler Waldorf]

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Thanks for the response. Could you elaborate on two things for me though? You say that the laws of logic come from humans, but then how could we have a law of contradiction when human minds contradict one another all the time? So could you explain your point?

My answer was fairly short because we covered this point in one of our earlier discussions, though I don't blame you for not remembering anything in those cumbersome posts.
Humans being able to contradict one another is irrelevant to the fact that we created them.
More to the point, the reason we have the laws of logic is because we have several strong languages. It is a result of a very nuanced method of communication with one another. Humans not always seeing eye to eye, not always having all the necessary information, and sometimes following to seporate but logical conclusions don't always follow with a lack of contradiction.
The very nature of law (such as US law) and formal debate stems from equally valid and logical but contradictory conclusions.
Computer sofware is built on very basic 'yes-no' bionary dynamic and yet computers have compatibility issues all the time, even within the same programming language (as any Windows owner will attest).
Being logical and possessing laws of logic (or creating them) doesn't always mean perfectly aligned thinking.

Secondly, I don't follow your answer to number 7, are you saying natural events are indeed rational?

Yes. "rational" in the sense that things don't just happen for no reason. The laws of physics are built upon the operation of cause and effect and other natural processes. Not knowing the cause or how an effect is brought about from a cause (or whatever) or a natural process that leads to a known result doesn't mean that an event is irrational (meaning without rhyme or reason).

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Thanks for the clarification on the first point. I disagree with you, but you explained your position well. I feel that the law of contradiction, law of identity, and etc would still exist even if all humans died out on earth, so I think they exist apart from humanity not because of it. Interesting topic though.

As to your second point, maybe we are just missing each other on this one. When I say rational I mean having the ability to exercise reason, which is something animals and natural events do not possess. So my question is where did this ability come from? It seems that a person’s ability to discern truth is unrelated to survivability, so I do not believe Darwinian processes could explain how the rational mind arose. Any thoughts?

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I have been ten times more civil to others on here as they have been to me. I have been called a “F**ker”, “Moron”, “Sh**head”, “A**hole”, told to die, told to suck a fart out of someone’s a**, and a closet homosexual just to name a few of my favorites to date.

Yeah..Im 100% guilty of that entire list...LMFAO...I especially like the "suck a fart out of my asshole" bit. Its one of my personal favorites.

Waldork, you should expect to be made fun of and cussed at..you are a hard headed, delusional moron.

How else do you expect us to react to you saying the Earth is young, The ark story was real, and some Jebus dude healed blindness with spit and came back from the dead only to blast off into the sky like he had a rocket in his ass to return to his home in the clouds where he would join with the other "him" up in his invisible kingdom?



No...Im SURE of it... You are a fucking kook!

Because it is impossible to have an infinite series of finite causes. So the first cause must be separate from the Universe and also eternal.

Really? And how did you come about that information? Have you lived an infinite amount of time and scratched your chin and say "it is impossible"

Oh..I get it...Like Jesus you just make it up. Make up an answer, act like its truth, and then hold it with faith.

P.S. - since when does "infinite series" has to be part of the equation? So tired of your deluded fucks rigging the questions and answers to set yourself up for the next swing.

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It's really sad you find such uncivil action something to be proud of. I find your beliefs equally as ridiculous as you find mind but notice I do not stoop to your level. I just find it disappointing that many of the atheists on here get on me for being confident in my position but give you a free pass for being completely rude and uncivil. Kind of goes to show that there really is no such thing as a fair minded individual. That being said, I am not responding to any of your posts from here on out, if you want to waste your time it is your time to waste. Good luck in all your endeavors and may God bless you.