(September 22, 2016 at 9:48 am)Drich Wrote: The reason I ask is because to me it seems as if the oppsite is what is desired. Before you drag out your soap box lets look at what the actual defination of justice is.
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noun jus·tice \ˈjəs-təs\
Popularity: Top 1% of lookupsNow note the definition does not presuppose an out come. Justice is essence is simply the process in which one is impartially judged. To impartially judge someone mean to forgo any assumptions of guilt or innocence and base a judgement solely on the evidence and how it relates to law.
- : the process or result of using laws to fairly judge and punish crimes and criminals
What the rioters want is a predetermined outcome, not the due process of law that one is to be judge in. But again that is what true justice is. the fair processing or judgement of one's action in accordance to how our laws/moral codes are written. Justice is not an automatic verdict.
An automatic verdict of Guilt is the only answer the rioters want. This is not justice, this is vengeance. So then why do they not 'call a club a club' and shout no vengeance, no peace? Or use 'vengeance' as a way to legitimizing hunting down cops and ambushing them? Why hide behind the word 'justice?' Is it because most people are so stupid as to not see the definition of vengeance and been tagged onto the word justice?
The KKK used the words justice and morality to justify their actions, so then what is the difference here?
We have a race centered group of people putting it's collective interest above that of all other people/races in said community, citing 'justice' as the reason the have for morally operating above/outside the law.
My opinion of this main post is basically that you're using the definition of justice quite narrowly.
You're not an alien from star trek visiting here and you know what the rioters mean when they say they want justice.
They mean they think the law is unfair and want it to be fair.
Some don't, some just need a slight excuse to take their shirts off and go around screaming and looting.
Personally I have mixed feelings towards these police officers who have killed black people, sometimes I think it's understandable why the killing happened, sometimes I think it's totally not understandable. Sometimes there's just not enough info to even make a choice.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.
