(September 24, 2016 at 3:48 pm)Drich Wrote:(September 24, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Oh, yeah, that's what I'm sayingNo one is poor in this country because because their mommy is poor. Again there are several other minority classes most of which do not even speak the language who first generation out of the gate break the cycle of poverty. People in this country do not understand that if you are born poor in india you have no hope. if you are born poor in china or even korea there is no hope. There is no reason here why a poor person has to be poor, despite who they were born to.
No, I'm saying that there are socioeconomic factors at play, like the cycle of poverty and despair these kids grow up in, as opposed this character flaw you would like to assign to black people as a whole.
The majority of black people who are poor are so because that is the culture they foster. you put a poor man who has a strong work ethic that is ingrained in him from his culture next to a man who has no work ethic and give each a chance to make something of themselves, the no work ethic man will alway have an excuse while the guy with a work ethic will come out on top.
What you are spouting back, are key words like cycle of poverty, despair ect.. it's all propaganda. Again this is a culture thing. There is even a cultural divide between poor black Americans and successful black Americans. This is not racism it's fact. Things like how one spends money, and on what will determine if one is successful or not, not where or to whom they were born.. If a community centers itself around partying and procreation then it's primary expense/where the money goes will be "plumage"/think peacock (crap to make themselves more appealing to a mate.) However if an individual centers on the working western model of sucess (education, saving investment etc) then there is better than a fair chance in this society he will become successful.
Quote:So, it's no different than the white kids.today? no. 25 years ago.. yes.
Quote:Anti-intellectualism is rampant in this country(you're exhibit A for this), and that attitude is just as prevalent in white people as it is black people. Yet somehow white people seem to be able to overcome this more easily. Could this not be because they are afforded better opportunities as a whole?White trash not a thing where you live?
Some of the worst neighborhoods have nothing to do with minorities where I live, it's out of control white people that are the scariest. If it was as you think, whites would not ever be in poverity. here's a little tid bit you don't seem to get... WHITES ARE THE MAJORITY OF POOR PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY!!! 41% of poor people are WHITE!!! nearly double the black population of poor people!!
Wake up moron, if what you say is true then white people are letting themselves down by allowing double their number to suffer in poverty than black...
OR AGAIN, This could just be a cultural thing. Some people Are lazy and would rather party than work and save. and this culture spans all races as all races are affected the same way.
Quote:And it's nice that you admit that a child has little hope of overcoming their culture.where did i say this?
Quote: Now, if you could only be honest with yourself and admit that socioeconomic factors are extremely powerful pieces of that culture and not as simple to overcome as a parent merely placing value on education. I doubt it, though, because you only seem interested in placing the blame squarely at the feet at those most adversely affected.maybe to stupid rich people, who can't see a future or hope with out money providing everything you could want or need.. I grew up super poor, and there is nothing anyone will ever tell me that will convince me that you are doomed if you do not grow up rich. Again white guilt plagues you, and if you will let me/shut up and listen I will show you where the BS begins and ends.
A nice article on the Indian/Chinese demographic and their jobs as compared to other demographics including whites, thus showing how much they want to succeed against the odds including racism.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/internation...216416.ece
http://www.demos.co.uk/blog/why-are-brit...akistanis/
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150518/wo...l-uk-study
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