(September 24, 2016 at 5:08 pm)Thena323 Wrote:I was actually pulled over in my drive way by a cop that has been following me. he turned on his light two house away from mine. so instead of stopping right then I pull into my drive, I foolishly stepped out and jokingly asked did they want to come inside for lunch. One screamed for me to get back in the truck, the other shouted for me to step away. So I put my hands up and said when you decide what you want me to do ONE of you tell me to do it. They told me to get inside the truck. i told them I have a conceal carry gun in the cab and asked is that where you want me to be, without moving and my hands still up. then the driver pulled his gun told me to get on the ground, then the Sargent told me to put my hands on the truck. I did not move i simply asked them to make up their mind again and I ask the Sargent to please be the only one to give me orders...(September 24, 2016 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote: The black man: Why did you shoot me?
Cop: You dove head first back into the car.
Again, the reason for the confrontation is meaningless. It is the action of the man that dictates the cop's action.
I'm sorry he got shot, but if a cop asks you to do something, acknowledge the request and announce everything you have to do to comply.
what the problem is?
You don't see anything wrong this scenario? Yikes.
The officer did NOT ask him to step him to step away from his vehicle, as is protocol when dealing with actual suspect. THEN the officer proceeded to ask "Can I see your license, please?". The man simply went to retrieve his license as the officer requested; He complied. This guy wasn't being arrested or questioned as a suspect for an actual crime. He was asked to produce documentation for ticketable offense.
"Dove" is a word the officer chose to use, because he knew he'd fucked up. He was grasping at straws at that point.
Trooper Sean Groubert's statement to his supervisor:
Quote:"I pulled him over for a seat-belt violation," Groubert said. "Before I could even get out of my car, he jumped out, stared at me, and as I jumped out of my car and identified myself as I approached him, he jumped head-first back into his car. I started retracting back towards the rear of his vehicle telling him, 'Look, get out of the car. Let me see your hands.' He jumped out of the car. I saw something black in his hands. I ran to the other side of the car yelling at him, and he kept coming towards me. Apparently, it was his wallet."http://www.wistv.com/story/26640394/offi...d-shooting
Police officers don't lie, though. Right?
Point being if they tell you to do something that you know may make the situation worse... just communicate. without moving and your hands up.
Did the cop screw up, yes and he know he did.. which is why he was screaming for him to get out of the truck. Dude panicked and seriously thought his screw up was going to get him killed. your right he did not follow protocol and it got the guy shot.
I can see it for the poor black guy POV as well. i am just doing what he asks and he shoots me...
If the black guy is retarded or lives in a vacuum/NEVER been pulled over before then I can see why he does not think to communicate with the cop about what has to be done to comply with the cop... If he is not and just had an off day.. then unfortunatly his error in this situation serves as a reminder to communicate and make you movements known before you do something.