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7 Animals that are Evolving Right Before Our Eyes
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RE: 7 Animals that are Evolving Right Before Our Eyes
(May 25, 2011 at 6:50 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: 2. The fossil record is interpreted assuming evolution (common descent) happened, so to use it to support evolution is circular. Many secularists even see this problem. "Contrary to what most scientists write, the fossil record does not support the Darwinian theory of evolution because it is this theory (there are several) which we use to interpret the fossil record. By doing so we are guilty of circular reasoning if we then say the fossil record supports this theory." - Dr. Ronald West (Kansas State University).

Dr Ron West?

Here is the complete quote.....

Boundary conditions are the limits within which the theory is applicable..
Thus there does not seem to be any compartmentalization of attitudes as
Scott suggests; evolutionary theory deals with biology in the present, and
uniformitarianism permits the use of present processes to explain past
events. The concept of uniformitarianism does not enter the picture until
the attempt is made to use evolutionary theory (biological present) to
explain the fossils record (paleobiological past). Contrary to what most
scientists write, the fossil record does not support the Darwinian theory of
evolution because it is this theory (there are several) which we use to
interpret the fossil record. By doing so we are guilty of circular
reasoning if we then say the fossil record supports this theory. When an
effort is made to explain the fossil record (whether it be taxonomic
differences or changes in response to ecological factors) in terms of
Darwinian evolution the concept of uniformitarianism is essential, for it
allows us to use the present to explain the past. This should be its main
purpose, to allow us to reconstruct the past on the basis of a theory or
theories founded on nonhistoric events." [Ronald R. West, "Paleoecology and
Uniformitarianism", The Compass of Sigma Gamma Epsilon, Vol. 45, No. 4, May
1968, p. 216]

And a bit of commentry on that quote

It seems here that West was correctly pointing out circular reasoning, but
it is not against the theory of evolution. His argument is that
uniformitarianism should be used to explain the fossil record using the
Darwinian theory. He does not imply that the Darwinian theory is wrong, or
how data is forced into an evolutionary framework. Creationists argue
against the concept of Uniformitarianism, something West supports and
explains in this article. Uniformitarianism falsifies many of the claims
made by creationists concerning their literal interpretation of the Book of
Genesis."

And the site it is from http://www.digisys.net/users/hoppnrmt/tr...ossils.htm

Don't quote mine real scientists SW, you will get caught out.
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RE: 7 Animals that are Evolving Right Before Our Eyes - by Zen Badger - May 26, 2011 at 6:40 am

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