(May 26, 2011 at 12:16 am)apophenia Wrote:(April 12, 2011 at 11:26 am)OnlyNatural Wrote: And this last quote, below, is just priceless. I can't believe he thinks the two situations are equal. By desecrating a Holocaust memorial, you're disrespecting millions of actual innocent lives lost. But by desecrating some communion wafers? You're disrespecting an entity that almost certainly doesn't exist except in your collective delusions! Tragic real-life facts are NOT the same as personal beliefs that are unsupported by evidence, no matter how deeply they are held.
Not sure I agree here, you don't get to make the call about the truth of someone else's beliefs unless you can present a compelling interest that justifies your doing so. I don't think those are really Christ cookies, but then nobodies asking that I believe. If they do so, then bitch. Now it's a separate issue whether some kinds of beliefs have rights. I'd say no, but then I'm not going to go around pissing in realist's wheaties with my anti-realist mojo either. I think there is a place for realizing that some beliefs mean more to some people than life itself.
Hey, I'm willing to consider the truth value of their beliefs, if only they had some evidence. I have more respect for something real that happened, than for irrational beliefs taken on faith. The Holocaust happened, causing unimaginable suffering. But if someone tells me that Jesus's feelings are hurt (and his followers suffer equally from the insult) if you crush a cracker that's supposed to somehow transform into his flesh? Maybe this person cares more about God's feelings than anything else, but I care about real human beings. I wouldn't intentionally hurt someone by stomping on their faith, mind you, but I don't think that religious beliefs are worthy of the same respect as beliefs based on reality. I respect the religious person, certainly, but not the belief.
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