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Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian
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RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian
(June 2, 2011 at 5:22 am)FaithNoMore Wrote: [quote='Godschild' pid='141768' dateline='1306988892']
That is my question and you haven't answered it, God had and has a purpose for this country and in His own way guided it's rise, the purpose that God has and the actions man takes upon himself can and most often conflict with each other. I do not believe that God wanted the Indians treated the way they were and I myself find it to be a horrible thing. Yes I do believe many christians were involved in the terrible treatment of the Indians because they viewed them as inferior, this is not a reason for such action but never the less it took place and I'm sure not to God's approval. Greed does not know very many bounds with most people and thus the results of how America treated the Native Americans. God is not responsible for man's actions just as a parent is not responsible for the action of a child.
The answer is that I don't believe God had anything to do with it as I have no belief in God. You, however, made the assertion that God helped this country rise, but why would he do that all the while the natives were being slaughtered for this country to exist? If you want to make the claim that God was involved in the creating of this country, you have to explain why he was active in the building of a country whose foundation was the blood of the innocent. Why didn't God wipe his hands clean of the whole dirty mess? It's because you are American, and you believe God loves the same things you do. This allows you to avoid criticizing whether the foundation of this country actually fits into your God's ideals.

Then you claim God is not responsible for the action of ignorant men, but somehow he was responsible for the founding of this country, which was founded by the same ignorant men. You're simply trying to have your cake and eat it to.

Again I do not understand your thinking in this matter. God has a purpose for this country reguardless of man's inhumanity to man. God will judge these men someday for what they have done. Like I said before man's actions and God's plans often conflict, man often tries to out think the omniscient God they worship and this often leads to things being done in God's name that was never God's intention and in the end God gets blamed for the short comings of man. To sum this up, God's plans are His and are of a spiritual purpose and God will carry His plans through for His purpose reguardless of what man does. Very few men ever see God's plans coming about, most only see His plan after it has come to fruition. Man's greatest fault is hind site, God's never has to use such, He is omnipresent and can see the future and knows the good of His plans, ie. He can see the results before they happen. To answer your question on why God would not wash His hands of such a mess, His plans do not depend on man's actions, man's actions have never and will never dictate God's will for doing good.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 29, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 30, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 30, 2011 at 12:44 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 31, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Cinjin - May 30, 2011 at 10:59 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Cinjin - May 31, 2011 at 12:21 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Godschild - June 2, 2011 at 9:49 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by fr0d0 - May 31, 2011 at 7:18 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 31, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by fr0d0 - June 1, 2011 at 4:21 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Violet - June 1, 2011 at 10:40 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Darth - June 4, 2011 at 10:32 am

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