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So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal?
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RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal?
I used to think the "UFO phenomena" was fascinating.  Until I started hanging out in a couple of UFO forums.  Then I realized it was all just BS.  Let me tell you how a normal conversation goes there.

1) Somebody posts something which cannot be easily explained with what we know and then explains it with what they wish they knew
2) There is some back and forth between enthusiasts and skeptics with skeptics offering natural explanations and enthusiasts rejecting every one of them
3a) If nobody recognizes it as a known phenomena, 2 goes on for a while and name-calling begins.  "Septic skeptic" is a popular one.  Step 2 goes on for a while until everyone loses interest
3b) If somebody does recognize the phenomena or even the particular evidence it is ALWAYS a natural explanation.  The conversation ends abruptly with enthusiasts pretending it never happened
4) The process starts all over in a new thread

This is how EVERY SINGLE thread goes.  There are no exceptions.  If you can't PROVE to them there is a natural explanation then their particular pet explanation is correct.  If it "could not have been" X then it "MUST BE" whatever they want it to be.  And it "could not have been" X unless you prove it IS X.  If you do they pretend the conversation never happened and use the same flawed arguments again in the next thread.

On top of that they insist on using phrases like "UFOs are real!"  Well of course they are!  A "UFO" is an "UNIDENTIFIED flying object".  But that's not really what they're saying.  What they are saying is that alien space craft visiting the planet is a real phenomena.  So why do they use the wrong term?  So that if they're ever called out they get to back out of it by saying, "I never said aliens were here!", which, no, they did not, even though that's exactly what they are saying.  If you request that they accurately state what they are saying it is like you never made that post.  It simply goes ignored, as if it doesn't exist.  And in the same conversation the same enthusiast will tell you both that "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" when explaining why no evidence to support the idea the crop circles are caused by aliens means absolutely nothing AND THEN go on to explain that in "real" crop circles there is no evidence to show that they were made by humans, proving that they are real.

I actually had one person quote Sherlock Holmes to me as if the quote were some law of science.  "When you eliminate the impossible, that which is left, however improbable, must be the answer."  Well, yeah, if you're a fictional character with a universe designed around you to make you always come out on top and never be wrong, that is correct.  In the real world, however, that is meaningless babble which couldn't be more wrong.  You don't determine "what is" by figuring out "what is not".  If you are looking at an apple and you determine it is not a rock, that doesn't really bring you any closer to figuring out what it "is".  That's just not how reality works.

Long story short, UFO enthusiasts are all nuts and there is nothing to any claim they ever make.
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RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Jesster - August 21, 2016 at 2:48 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Alex K - August 21, 2016 at 5:09 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Arkilogue - August 21, 2016 at 3:01 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 3:05 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Grandizer - August 21, 2016 at 4:09 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Jesster - August 21, 2016 at 4:15 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Jackalope - September 29, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Grandizer - September 30, 2016 at 7:13 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Fake Messiah - September 30, 2016 at 10:00 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by LastPoet - August 21, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by LastPoet - August 21, 2016 at 5:35 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by chimp3 - August 21, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Cato - August 21, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by CapnAwesome - August 21, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Fake Messiah - September 16, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Fake Messiah - September 22, 2016 at 5:06 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 22, 2016 at 6:22 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Fake Messiah - September 29, 2016 at 3:58 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by LostLocke - September 29, 2016 at 10:44 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by thesummerqueen - September 29, 2016 at 9:09 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by downbeatplumb - September 29, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Kosh - October 3, 2016 at 12:52 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Arkilogue - October 4, 2016 at 12:44 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Arkilogue - October 4, 2016 at 1:31 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Kosh - October 4, 2016 at 7:46 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by chimp3 - October 4, 2016 at 7:55 am
RE: So UFO's and aliens... what's the deal? - by Asmodee - October 18, 2016 at 2:41 pm

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