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I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
(October 24, 2016 at 3:52 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Welcome to the forum!


Your version of cosmological argument is just as flawed as every other version.

Just to start, your argument is based on the fallacy of composition. Just because something is true for something within the universe, does not mean it is true of the universe itself.

Not to mention, causation is necessarily a temporal event. The god you are positing, if it was capable of causing events, would have to exist in a realm which also has time. Who created the realm your god exists within?

There are many more problems with your argument, but these are enough to show that it is logically invalid.

Time is objectively the measure of the movement/change of stuff through space. If you have space and no stuff, you have an eternal now. If you have stuff taking up all space so there can be no movement, you also have an eternal now. As soon as you make space in stuff or stuff in space and add movement, you get cyclical/orbital/relative time. Non-relative time is a duration that does not change.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing? - by deleteduser12345 - October 25, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing? - by deleteduser12345 - November 7, 2016 at 5:15 pm

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