(October 24, 2016 at 5:24 pm)abaris Wrote:(October 24, 2016 at 5:06 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I don't think you've seen this one before. It's uniquely confused. Most of these fly-by-night apologists haven't a clue about how the meaning of the terms they are using have changed since antiquity and the Middle Ages when the demonstrations were first formulated.
But I still find it boring having the same circular arguments over and over. You know, when I was at university, medieval history and it's writings have been part of the curriculum. I can't really remember which one of the scholars the sheet was about I was handed to translate, but it had a picture and a caption reading "hochgelahrt man", which literally translated into "hichly learned man". This was about some guy from the 13th century, a clergyman, and I remember musing, what could you have known to be deserving of the title? Virtually nothing going by our standards, was the answer I came up with. Well, he probably knew his philosophers and the writings of his time, better than me, that's for sure. But that's also about all he knew. He knew nothing about the world and it's workings.
I get that YOU find it boring, abaris. But please remember that not everyone is as experienced and savvy with logical argumentation, (specifically arguments for the existence of God) as you and others are. We have new members, and who knows how many lurkers who may have never even considered this line of thinking before, and seeing veteran members deconstructing unsound/invalid arguments can be a great learning tool.
I learned a lot here just by watching folks like Simon Moon, Mister Agenda, Rob, and Esquilax in action with theists. (Not leaving anyone out on purpose; those are just a few that come to mind right away) I think it's a tedious yet invaluable service to the "newbs", and we should appreciate them taking the time to painstakingly go through the same take-downs over and over, for the benefit of others. I suppose if you've grown intellectually tired of it you could just not read or participate in the thread.
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