I was having this discussion with my Mom last night
I think these cake makers are fools, I really do. They only bring out this "it's against my views" argument selectively when a gay couple walk in, they don't use it when talking about, say, someone who is being married for the second time after a divorce, or a couple who are not virgins walking down the wedding aisle. That's why I can't take it seriously, it's selective.
But with that said, as a gay person, I have no interest in paying you my money to make me a wedding cake if that's how you feel. It's fine, I'll move right along and find another cake maker who, A) Isn't a bigot and B) Actually cares about their craft enough that it doesn't matter who they're making their cake for and for what event. I don't have to give you my money, you can lose customers, I'll go elsewhere. There will also (in this day and age) be straight customers who will boycott on behalf of gay people, in the same way people would boycott if an interracial couple got refused.
I think this whole discussion is petty from both sides. Yes the cake makers are wrong, I also think it's petty how more gay people don't have this "ok fine, you can not make money then..." mentality and move along. Vote with your feet and money, it doesn't need to be a massive legal issue.
I think these cake makers are fools, I really do. They only bring out this "it's against my views" argument selectively when a gay couple walk in, they don't use it when talking about, say, someone who is being married for the second time after a divorce, or a couple who are not virgins walking down the wedding aisle. That's why I can't take it seriously, it's selective.
But with that said, as a gay person, I have no interest in paying you my money to make me a wedding cake if that's how you feel. It's fine, I'll move right along and find another cake maker who, A) Isn't a bigot and B) Actually cares about their craft enough that it doesn't matter who they're making their cake for and for what event. I don't have to give you my money, you can lose customers, I'll go elsewhere. There will also (in this day and age) be straight customers who will boycott on behalf of gay people, in the same way people would boycott if an interracial couple got refused.
I think this whole discussion is petty from both sides. Yes the cake makers are wrong, I also think it's petty how more gay people don't have this "ok fine, you can not make money then..." mentality and move along. Vote with your feet and money, it doesn't need to be a massive legal issue.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane" - sarcasm_only
"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie
"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie
