I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

[Mariosep]

Dear Asmodee, please try to be serious, you have got to have in your mind a concept of God that or the information of the concept of God that corresponds to the information of the concept of God that I proffer, otherwise you are denying to no serious purpose but as a flippant remark, the existence of God in accordance with the information of the concept of God from me a theist, namely:

• God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

As you are to all appearances intent on flippancy, I will have to terminate my exchange with you - unless you return to the kind of serious mood that does credit to Atheistforums.org.

May I just request that you present your information of the concept of God in a succinct statement, there is a Finnish Dictionary of Atheism* which might assist you to come to an information of the concept of God or god, which then we can exchange thoughts on as to ultimately concur that yes, God exists. or no, God does not exist.

*I will provide you with the internet link to this dictionary.

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Asmodee

Let's see, my concept of god: god is magic, god is fantasy, god is delusion, god is an excuse, god is an escape, god is a manipulation, god is illogic, god is non factual, god is untrue, god is anecdotal.

OK, your turn Mario, prove me wrong.

Edit: Oops, I almost forgot: god is man made. According to your words (and assuming your are human): "God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."

Sounds man made to me, not god made.

Now there is a concept of a god I can't find any issues with.  Let's go through each thing and see what is right or wrong with it.

God is magic - well, OBVIOUSLY!  I've never heard of a god playing D&D in his mom's basement.  I've never heard of a god doing anything "ordinary".  So this is pretty much standard for being "a god".

God is fantasy - that one is certainly undisprovable, the defacto standard for a particular god being real!  There is even plenty of evidence for it since there are thousands of god and each and every one seems to always agree EXACTLY with what his follower believes and desires to be true.

God is delusion - there certainly has been some proof of this.  Children dying because praying didn't cure simple diseases, snake handlers dying of snake bites, the Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate...there is a rather long list of evidences to support this.

God is excuse - Jihad.  Enough said.

God is an escape - people use any given god to escape reality every day.  That is, unless you believe both that you will be reincarnated according to how good you are AND eventually also go to Heaven.  But then you still have to deal with all the people who believe only one of those things and not both.

God is manipulation - we covered that with the cults.

God is illogic - see the OP of this thread.

God is non-factual - ask anyone who believes in a god a really tough question and more likely than not they will have an answer, no matter what the question, no batter if they had never before considered it, no matter that their particular source of "knowledge" says nothing about the subject.  You know what that means?  THEY'RE MAKING IT UP!

God is untrue - again we have an undisprovable god-claim, and if you can't prove it wrong then it's right by default!  Then there is also this little thought; every claim ever made about a god at any point in time has either been A) not be proved to be true or B) proved to be not true.  It may be "undisprovable", but that doesn't mean there isn't evidence to support it.

God is anecdotal - I seem to remember a quote recently about "spiritual evidence" in place of, you know, ACTUAL evidence.  That pretty much sums this one up.

God is man made - nobody denies at least most gods are.  So, once again, every god for which there is total agreement is known to have been man made.  On top of that, most would agree that at least MOST gods are man made.  Many would agree that at least ALL BUT ONE god is man made, but they can't agree on which god isn't.  While not evidence of truth, it is pretty suggestive of truth.

So yeah, just tell me what religion you are and that's what I am from here on out (please be atheist, please be atheist, please be atheist...hey, nothing wrong with the god you choose agreeing with you 100%, right?)

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Dear colleagues here, as Asmodee has returned to our exchange on an one on one protocol. please excuse me from reacting to your posts, for I am only one poster, not a battalion.

Here is the internet link to the Finnish Dictionary of Atheism.

Dictionary of Atheism.