(October 28, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:All good points, also allegedly said by Jesus …7 And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.(October 28, 2016 at 10:35 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Why pray? God is all seeing and all knowing, so he must know what you want to pray about before you do it, why waste his time telling him thinks he already knows?
That's what I've often said. Why do you need to telepathically tell an omniscient being anything? If you need something and this omnibenevolent deity is going to get it for you, then why would you ever need to pray for it? And if you want something and it's not in this deity's plans, no amount of praying will ever make it happen, so prayer is totally useless in that regard.
Jesus also allegedly said "What ever you ask in my name, I will do..." Couple that with the fact no one called him Jesus until 500 years ago, that was not his birth name. It's like have a bank called House Bank that says "Any loan you ask for in our name shall be granted" and people are asking for car loans, boat loans, loan loans....etc. Nope, only for houses.
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder