RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 29, 2016 at 2:35 am
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(October 28, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Evidence is never hypothetical unless it is all a mental exercise all in your mind, what scientists call a thought experiment.
They have a thought experiment with thought evidence, but you know what?
Do you know that they are going into objective reality, to look for objective concrete evidence to validate their mental exercise and their thought experiment?
Now, I say that God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning; yes, that is all in the mind.
So, god is in your mind? Good, now we're getting somewhere.
(October 28, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Mariosep Wrote: But you are not paying attention to the rest of my explanation of what it is tor prove something existing in objective realty outside of thinking in our mind.
I continue all the time repeatedly as to wear out the temper of our dear fellow humans here who are atheists, I continue with telling atheists here that we will go forth into objective reality to search for all instances of causation, which all are concrete evidence of the existence of an entity in objective reality corresponding to the concept of God, namely, in concept, first and foremost the creator, understand that as cause, and the operator, understand as cause, of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
Hmmm...what if ancient civilizations created the idea of God, or any deity, in order to explain the natural world because they lacked the tools and/or expertise to do it correctly, and accurately?
(October 28, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Now, let you and me, let us recall that our parents caused us to come into existence and life, by their love-making.
That is one instance of causation, and God is the first and ultimate cause of all intermediary causes; think about that, with your reason and intelligence grounded on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.
Again; this concept of a god was an afterthought. Not only our planet, but the entire universe had existed for billions of years before human beings were around. In an age where we did not have the tools to properly measure it, we crafted fables to explain it. It may have worked at one point, but it has become irrelevant.
(October 28, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Mariosep Wrote: The party's line response to this search for evidence in all instances of causation in the world, you tell me because I have already seen that line everywhere with atheists.
You tell me, and I will explain to you that it is not anything founded on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.
It is not founded on reason and intelligence.
I do not believe God, or any deity, exists. I do not believe one has ever existed; and I do not believe one ever will. Why? Because, aside from what is described in literature, one has never appeared. Anywhere. It is nowhere to be found.
(October 28, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Please stay with me.
See Whateverist's post (#298). His words carry the weight of wisdom.
“Life is like a grapefruit. Well, it's sort of orangey-yellow and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, too. Oh, and some people have half a one for breakfast.” - Ford Prefect