(October 29, 2016 at 6:59 am)Mariosep Wrote: Do you ever take notice that I keep mentioning the phrase first and foremost, in my concept of God, namely, God in concept is FIRST AND FOREMOST the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning?
You are making an unfounded assumption that there needs to be a first cause. A first cause has no explanatory power. How did the first cause come about? And if it is eternal then why cannot the universe be eternal? As I explained earlier, what is the first cause of a snow flake?
(October 27, 2016 at 5:01 am)Mathilda Wrote: Why can't there be a cycle of causation for example? We see this the whole time in reality.
Take snowflakes for example. Complex and intricate structures. You could argue that something caused them to exist, but it's actually part of the water cycle given certain conditions. They land, melt, merge into the seas, water evaporates, gets lifted higher until it condenses out into cold air, moves into freezing conditions, comes across dust or pollen nuclei and grows into new snow flakes. Which point is the first cause in that cycle?