(October 31, 2016 at 7:52 pm)Mariosep Wrote: You please write a proof of something to exist in objective reality, what about atoms in space?
Go fetch Me a sample of space and we'll take it to a lab and examine it under an electron microscope.
Quote:This is my proof for God existing.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
Just a concept, and not demonstrated to be accurate.
Quote:2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
Red herring. At this point, causation is not the issue -- the existence of your hypothetical god is the issue.
Quote:3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
Continuation of previous red herring.
Quote:4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
Unsupported assertion. All you have here is a weak hypothesis, and have failed to demonstrate that "first" and "ultimate" have anything to do with this.
Quote:5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
No, we certainly do not "find" anything of the sort. You are now clearly in logical fallacy territory with an unsupported assertion (identifying an hypothetical and undemonstrated "first and ultimate cause" with a hypothetical and undemonstrated entity) and petitio principii (assuming the existence of the being you are trying to prove and using it as part of the argument).
Quote:6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
Conclusion: Argumentum ad stercoris. 40+ pages of discussion, and you're still no closer to producing actual evidence. Your so-called "proof" is discarded as worthless.
