(October 31, 2016 at 7:52 pm)Mariosep Wrote:Quote:Astreja, 386 [Excerpt] "It's absolute nonsense to use causation as evidence of anything more than... causation. You simply cannot declare arbitrarily that a god caused this or that, and that your favourite god is the only possible explanation. Go back and prove that your god is real, using empirical, lab-testable evidence rather than bad philosophy."
The empirical evidence from me is in Nos. 1 to 5, see below.
You please write a proof of something to exist in objective reality, what about atoms in space?
You have experienced the causation by you of a baby, so please also experience proving something like say atoms to exist in space, then you will comprehend my proof, okay?
click page 1 to see the proof in OP Mariosep Wrote:This is my proof for God existing.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
Mariosep, instead of spamming this thread with the same old shit, could you please look at the refutations made against your OP (of which there are at least thirty) and give us counter arguments to show they don't defeat your argument, or modifications to your argument which deal with them.
Because all that's happening at the moment is "I beleive in god because of X", "Well you're wrong about X so it is not a basis for believing in god", "Your wrong I beleive in god becoz of X". If you cannot either give us newer better arguments or show your original arguments to be able to defeat the counters you currently have no argument for believing in god.
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