I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

[Simon Moon]

Mariosep, instead of spamming this thread with the same old shit, could you please look at the refutations made against your OP (of which there are at least thirty) and give us counter arguments to show they don't defeat your argument, or modifications to your argument which deal with them.

Because all that's happening at the moment is "I beleive in god because of X", "Well you're wrong about X so it is not a basis for believing in god", "Your wrong I beleive in god becoz of X". If you cannot either give us newer better arguments or show your original arguments to be able to defeat the counters you currently have no argument for believing in god.

The obvious truth of all of the, so called, philosophical argument for the existence of a god (cosmological, teleological, ontological, TAG, etc), is that they only exist to convince the believer that they have a rational reason to believe in gods. They are not designed to convince nonbelievers.


All of them have stronger logical defeaters.

The most blatant example is the intellectually dishonest, William Lane Craig. He has been quoted on many occasions that even if all his arguments are defeated, even if he is shown evidence that disproves his religion, he will continue believing because of the "self affirming truth of the inner witness of the holy spirit'.

As many here have already stated in this thread, a logical argument on its own, can not prove the existential reality of deities. You can't logic a god into existence. The most a logical argument on its own can show, is that the conclusion cannot be shown to be impossible. That's it. And that is only true of the argument is valid and sound, which Mariosep's is not.