(November 8, 2016 at 4:47 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(November 8, 2016 at 4:14 pm)Mariosep Wrote: The fact is that atheist colleagues will not come up with their information on the concept of God that makes sense in this issue of God existing or not, and it is as I have formulated it in step one of my proof for God existing, see ANNEX 2.
It is not up to us to come up with a concept of a god, then prove it does not exist. It is up to you to define your god, then provide evidence for its existence.
If you are able to convince us, them we would no longer be atheists.
We are still waiting.....
Quote:And logically they should accept my information on the concept as I am a theist and I know for a certainty that God exists, based on my thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas;
Your definition is pretty vague, but acceptable.
Your 'proof' does not lead to your conclusion, due to the many fallacies that have been previously pointed out by many here, which you have failed to address.
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
I say this because several times now, you have admonished me for being too hung up on finding fallacies. But if you knew what the word meant, you would know, that if an argument, your 'proof' for example, contains fallacies, it is a logically invalid argument.
It might behoove you to read a book on basic logic. You will see that they all will have chapters on fallacies.
Quote:but they atheists will not accept my information of the concept of God existing, namely, in concept God is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning - why?
I accept that you are making an assertion that such a god exists. I just do not accept that you have met your burden of proof to support my belief in said god.
Why, you ask?
Because you have offered no demonstrable and falsifiable evidence. All you have offered is a flawed and fallacious 'proof'.
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So here's the tricky question, Do you believe in absolute truth?
