Well, Simon, you are obviously evading to answer my challenge to you to go into objective reality of existence to contemplate your papa and mama causing you to come to existence and life - see ANNEX below in bold.
So, when you do not do this contemplation, I do not reply or more correctly react at all to your further posting here.
For the rest of atheists and everyone else, do the same contemplation, and then let us talk about causation.
Otherwise, as there are all kinds of atheists in the internet with their self-identification of the kind they belong to, perhaps some enterprising web surfer will start a website with the name, The Unrealistic Atheists: because these atheists don't do nothing in the objective reality of existence, like contemplating how their papa and mama caused them to have come to existence and life, they just stick to working out inside their brain err mind, with manipulation of words and concepts, and feeling so smug with having explained away, to their vacuous satisfaction, the existence of God, without so much as stepping into the reality of existence outside their brain err mind.
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Excerpt, in #648 Simon Moon Wrote:
It is not up to us to come up with a concept of a god, then prove it does not exist. It is up to you to define your god, then provide evidence for its existence.
If you are able to convince us, then we would no longer be atheists.
We are still waiting.....
So, when you do not do this contemplation, I do not reply or more correctly react at all to your further posting here.
For the rest of atheists and everyone else, do the same contemplation, and then let us talk about causation.
Otherwise, as there are all kinds of atheists in the internet with their self-identification of the kind they belong to, perhaps some enterprising web surfer will start a website with the name, The Unrealistic Atheists: because these atheists don't do nothing in the objective reality of existence, like contemplating how their papa and mama caused them to have come to existence and life, they just stick to working out inside their brain err mind, with manipulation of words and concepts, and feeling so smug with having explained away, to their vacuous satisfaction, the existence of God, without so much as stepping into the reality of existence outside their brain err mind.
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Excerpt, in #648 Simon Moon Wrote:
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The fact is that atheist colleagues will not come up with their information on the concept of God that makes sense in this issue of God existing or not, and it is as I have formulated it in step one of my proof for God existing, see ANNEX...
It is not up to us to come up with a concept of a god, then prove it does not exist. It is up to you to define your god, then provide evidence for its existence.
If you are able to convince us, then we would no longer be atheists.
We are still waiting.....
Mariosep Wrote:No need to be waiting uselessly, go and contemplate on how your papa and mama caused you to come to existence and life, and think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, as to infer from all instances of causation in the objective reality of existence outside of your mastery of fallacies all in your mind, to the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and the operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
Dear atheists and whoever else in this thread, I will now concentrate on Simon, please bear with my not reacting with you, but continue posting here for the benefit of readers.
in #675 one hour ago Mariosep Wrote:
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I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
24th October 2016, 17:27
This is my proof for God existing.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.