(November 10, 2016 at 1:26 pm)abaris Wrote:(November 10, 2016 at 1:19 pm)Aroura Wrote: I knew the skin heads and neo Nazis were making bids for power here and other places. Is this really happening??
It is already happening in parts of Europe and it might happen in even more countries. The European extreme right had a gloating field day already. I predicted something like that in a recent discussion with Aractus where he tried to educate me on European rightwingers. I said that a Trump victory would add an additional boost and encourage them even more, if not even the largest economy and nuclear power can fend something like that off. A possibility I was always aware of in spite of all the Clinton hype.
My parents brought me up with stories of their lives in the late 30ies, early 40ies. They always used their life stories as a warning. Such as what ideas not to fall for. Maybe that's the reason why I'm totally insulated by a coat of deeply felt disgust whenever I hear some of these rightwing creatures open their loudmouths.
My gran was born in 1910. She lived with us my entire childhood, and I think I'm a better person for it.
She never got over the habit of saving everything, because of the depression. Not like a hoarder. But she bought and ate fruit that was not spoiled yet but was going bad, so it wold not get thrown out at the store. She saved clean tinfoil pieces to reuse. She mended everything, and we rarely bought new clothing. She was American though, so had no stories of the rise of the right in Europe. All the same, she knew the great depression first hand. The recent recession was nothing like that, and to compare it in order to play on symathies and to scare people simply disgusts me.
I know people lost their homes and jobs. But it wasn't a 10 year wasteland of starvation with no help. Now the same people who fear they will lose everything have just voted in someone who will remove the safety nets many JUST used, so next time, there may indeed be a true wasteland.
I've read about the conditions that lead to the wars in Europe. I guess I need to do a little homework and reaquaint myself with history again. It's been a while.
Of course, the problem is that if 55% of people cannot see it, the other 45% are doomed along with them.

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― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead