(November 15, 2016 at 2:28 am)Ignorant Wrote:(November 14, 2016 at 9:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Not at all. I was a Hindu before becoming an atheist. What reason would I have for presuming the creator is like your god rather than mine? [1] This points to a major problem with Christianity in that it is founded upon a book that has multiple flaws. [2] Why would I assume its putative author had anything to do with creation? [3]
1) The reasons that would have led to the conclusion that it is real. Please don't misunderstand me. I am not proposing at this point that the purely rational conception of god is the same thing as Christianity's god and certainly not Hindu's god.
The most basic, purely rational conception of god, as far as I can tell, is subsistent-being. If Hindu's god is subsistent-being, then at this point in the discussion, we have no disagreement.
Not the point. It doesn't matter whose god you choose, you're using a loaded definition of the word god. Such 'relationships' only materialize with certain gods. I don't have a relationship with Loki, nor is he subsistent being (a concept I detest, btw). What you have by acknowledging a creator is a deistic god about whom nothing is known, unless you load the box with your own self-serving definition.