RE: If there is a creator, so what?
November 15, 2016 at 3:59 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2016 at 4:02 pm by robvalue.)
(November 15, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Ignorant Wrote:(November 15, 2016 at 8:50 am)robvalue Wrote: Okay well, I'll have to give up now Ignorant. Thanks for trying. I appreciate the respectful debate![]()
I cannot grasp what you are talking about; or rather, why you are labelling things the way you are. You sound like a pantheist to me, that's the nearest I can get. You've ensured this "god" of yours exists by definition, while sacrificing it actually being or doing anything at all that wasn't already happening. [1] Instead it's a non-entity being given credit for things. [2]
Thanks for your willingness to hear me out!
1) That is actually close! The crucial part missing is the relational aspect of being and doing. God is being and doing, he is not ALL beings and doings (which would be pantheism). All beings and doings are and do what-they-do in a way that is distinct from god's being and doing, but they also participate and share in them. Distinct but related. Pantheism denies the distinction. So you are close!
2) So it's not so much that you wouldn't care, but more that you disagree or don't understand how this could be the case?
Nothing you've said makes me think it's something I should care about, no. You can repackage things I already care about and somehow include them in this "god" of yours, but that's nothing more than equivocating.
There doesn't appear to be anything new to care about.
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