RE: If there is a creator, so what?
November 17, 2016 at 11:37 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2016 at 11:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 17, 2016 at 11:13 am)Ignorant Wrote: The term 'happiness' wasn't exactly well received in that thread, so I chose to use different terminology to express the same idea.Is that why you were stalling, lol? Let it all hang out, man. That;s the question that was askd. I doubt it's going to be any better received in this thread, and certainly not on account of your having attempted to camouflage it........
So that's it, then? We can't be truly happy unless we get some jesus? Yeah, I wouldn't have wanted to be seen saying that either.
Quote:You think there is any relationship between Thomas's account of god as subsistent-being, god as subsistent-goodness, and man's last end?I'm not sure what you're asking me....ofc theres a relationship between thomas acount of god (in both senses) and mans last end (again in thomas acount of it). If there weren't he'd just be spouting off incoherent gibberish. Are you asking me whether or not I would agree with the notions, granting that the christian god existed? Obviously not. Quite the reverse, actually. Goodness can't come from the god of vicarious redemption. Only favors and exceptions to the good flow from that god. It is only in denying it's offer that I can satisfy the good, and live that sort of imperfect happiness in this imperfect life that St. T was always babbling about. As to the perfect happiness in the next life, that one might gain if one only accepts jesus christ as lord and saviour...well, I'm incapable of doing so for ethical reasons...so I'll never get any of that..even if it does exist.
I mean...unless you want to spin my ethical objection to christianity as something that will score me points with the big man, being held to a different standard than you and all that. At which point, I neither needed god for imperfect happiness in this life, or perfect happiness in the next. It was living my life as though there were no god, and denying the offer if there were.....that got me both cookies.
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