I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

[Mariosep]

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I thought that I would be dispensing myself from dealing with Simon Moon, but I said to myself that I should really analyze carefully how he thinks in regard to babies caused by their papas and mamas, for he is telling me that I don't understand, namely, that babies came forth into existence with molecules re-arranging themselves, and that is material causation.

I could get him wrongly, but he is always around to correct me.

You see, dear readers here, atheists really do not care at all to get connected to the issue, God exists or not.

So everything they think up if at all they do think, it is to escape from any careful, systematic, coherent, consistent examination of the issue God exists or not.

Notice that they will never ever come up with their information of their concept of God, but they do have my information of my concept of God, they can read it, here again for them to get to read if they have not yet read it, for I have presented my concept of God nth times already here.

"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."

Now, dear readers here, Simon Moon is an expert in detecting fallacies, but I have to say this about his mastery of fallacies, namely, it is all in his mind, for he is a devotee of textbooks, that is where he gets his knowledge of fallacies, and also mammalian reproduction, but not from experiences in his life.

What so important about experiences in life?

Experiences in life, your own life and my own life, that is the core substance of our existence as conscious beings, that is why they are so very important.

You don't have experiences at all, then you are not existing as humans, but just at most only as robots, and your operator is the one existing as human, but you are only a piece of equipment, no experiences at all in the proper sense of experience.

You see, dear readers here, from his own lips he says that he has not had children, and he got his information on how babies come about, from textbooks on mammalian reproduction.

Now, in regard to causation of babies by papas and mamas, he brings in material cause, I bring in causation without any qualification as regards whether it is material or whatever else, except the phrase, by their papas and mamas.

Where does Simon Moon get his knowledge about material cause, which he is at great pains to make me understand?

Where else but from his collection of textbooks, in the case of material cause, almost certainly from his collections of textbooks on basics of philosophy.

In the philosophy of Christianism, there are four causes in bringing about an effect, namely:

Efficient cause
Final cause
Exemplary cause
Material cause

Simon Moon it appears never ever does any self-initiated thinking on where babies come from in term of causes, what he does when I bring in babies being caused by their papas and mamas, he grasps on his textbook knowledge of material cause, and comes up with molecules as the cause of babies and not their papas and mamas.

Well, dear Simon Moon, when you come over and tell readers that you just come over to laugh at me, also do some thinking on how you are forgetting the other three causes to bring about an effect, like babies, namely:

Efficient cause
Final cause
Exemplary cause
(Material cause, mentioned by Simon Moon)


Now, dear Simon and also dear atheists here, please do some serious thinking that is what I might call integrative and holistic, on babies caused by their papas and mamas to come to existence and life.


Okay, let us sit back and await Simon Moon to show up and laugh at me, but not doing anything of serious thinking on the other three causes, aside from material cause which are molecules, in the causation of babies, and not their babies' papas and mamas.

Let us see whether he will give some serious attention to thinking about the other three causes of any effect that is taken to be effect brought into existence by causation.

Efficient cause
Final cause
Exemplary cause
(Material cause, mentioned by Simon Moon)