RE: If there is a creator, so what?
November 17, 2016 at 6:53 pm
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2016 at 7:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 17, 2016 at 6:48 pm)Ignorant Wrote: 1) The full human life would include living life according to all that is true about it. IF god is real,skiiiiiiiiiiirt. You're about to take liberties not granted, aren't you? LOL. Your god is real for purposes of discussion, your every argument -about- that real god has not been granted.
Quote:I don't believe that. I believe people can lead a full human life without the Christian revelation. The Jesuits that taught you and me believe the same. They probably would also agree that a full human life can't be lived without "natural knowledge" of god.Nope, they wouldn't, and your statements are false by reference to themselves in any case. If I can lead a full and human life without christian revelation that I don;t need jesus to live a full and human life. Jesus is not an issue of general revelation, jesus is an issue of special revelation. That's where the "christ" bit comes from.
Jesuits aren't classical thomists (something they've been getting shit for, for centuries - that would be the dominicans). They think that a full human life might be able to be lived by nothing other than good work. After all....to do good work is to do gods work. Natural revelation?......any philosophy or theology, really, unnecessary. Good work, that's it, that's all. Jesuit pope says atheists can get into heaven. That's no revelation, special or general, no revelation whatsoever. Ignore that at your own peril, catholic.
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