RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 21, 2016 at 10:57 pm
Well, I still have not seen the clear acceptance of my challenge by Stimbo.
So, I will just leave now for the present until tomorrow, and see whether tomorrow she puts in a clear acceptance of my challenge or puts in a clear refusal to accept my challenge.
If tomorrow she does not express acceptance nor refusal, then I will take it that she is still thinking indefinitely to accept or to refuse.
So, addressing Stimbo, you can continue indefinitely to not express a clear acceptance of my challenge or a clear refusal of my challenge, but the challenge is always present, and you can accept or refuse at your convenience, as long as I am still in this thread and still in this forum.
Now, dear readers here, I like to bring to your thinking this statement from myself, of course it is not any insight that others have not come to, except that I have put it in my own peculiar formulation, here as follows below; and I have repeated it several times in this thread because it is a good platform for the determination of God exists or not.
"The default status of the totality of reality is existence."
Now, how do we get to know existence?
We get to know existence from experience, this is the avenue by which we come to know also our each one's individual self-existence by our experience of consciousness, which consciousness itself is a habitual experience when we are in a state of consciousness.
Now, when we get together and experience each other's existence, then we get to know the existence of others like ourselves, existing in, by, through, from, and with our each one's experience of for example the physical presence of each one by himself and of everyone's else physical presence.
Then we all get to know the existence of things outside of ourselves humans, by again experiencing them, like seeing and touching the trees, etc., and seeing the sun in the daytime sky, and the moon in the night sky.
All these experiences of existence are a part of the default status of the totality of reality which is existence.
How does that lead us to come to the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning?
Well, dear readers here, as you are and I appreciate that very much, always reading this thread, I propose that you think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, that will lead you to see that all our experiences of existence are the evidence of the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
And tomorrow, as I can see that Stimbo will not be forthcoming with her clear acceptance and neither her clear refusal to accept my challenge, I will take up with Simon, to resume our exchange.
Of course I will also take notice of the raving mad foul language and personal attacks from atheists here, that is the inevitable risk of entering into exchange of thoughts with internet atheists.
So, I will just leave now for the present until tomorrow, and see whether tomorrow she puts in a clear acceptance of my challenge or puts in a clear refusal to accept my challenge.
If tomorrow she does not express acceptance nor refusal, then I will take it that she is still thinking indefinitely to accept or to refuse.
So, addressing Stimbo, you can continue indefinitely to not express a clear acceptance of my challenge or a clear refusal of my challenge, but the challenge is always present, and you can accept or refuse at your convenience, as long as I am still in this thread and still in this forum.
Now, dear readers here, I like to bring to your thinking this statement from myself, of course it is not any insight that others have not come to, except that I have put it in my own peculiar formulation, here as follows below; and I have repeated it several times in this thread because it is a good platform for the determination of God exists or not.
"The default status of the totality of reality is existence."
Now, how do we get to know existence?
We get to know existence from experience, this is the avenue by which we come to know also our each one's individual self-existence by our experience of consciousness, which consciousness itself is a habitual experience when we are in a state of consciousness.
Now, when we get together and experience each other's existence, then we get to know the existence of others like ourselves, existing in, by, through, from, and with our each one's experience of for example the physical presence of each one by himself and of everyone's else physical presence.
Then we all get to know the existence of things outside of ourselves humans, by again experiencing them, like seeing and touching the trees, etc., and seeing the sun in the daytime sky, and the moon in the night sky.
All these experiences of existence are a part of the default status of the totality of reality which is existence.
How does that lead us to come to the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning?
Well, dear readers here, as you are and I appreciate that very much, always reading this thread, I propose that you think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, that will lead you to see that all our experiences of existence are the evidence of the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
And tomorrow, as I can see that Stimbo will not be forthcoming with her clear acceptance and neither her clear refusal to accept my challenge, I will take up with Simon, to resume our exchange.
Of course I will also take notice of the raving mad foul language and personal attacks from atheists here, that is the inevitable risk of entering into exchange of thoughts with internet atheists.