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Believers, put yourself in my place.
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RE: Believers, put yourself in my place.
November 22, 2016 at 12:47 pm (This post was last modified: November 22, 2016 at 12:51 pm by robvalue.)
(November 22, 2016 at 12:19 pm)operator Wrote: I think one can choose to believe in something despite a complete lack of evidence for that something. But I don't think one can choose disbelief.

I would say that they do have "evidence", of some sort. Just not what a critical thinker would call evidence. I don't think someone can randomly choose to believe something that they didn't a minute ago, without something happening to bring about that change of mind. For many theists, everything is evidence, because they've been indoctrinated into thinking so.

As in my dragon example, I don't think any sane person can suddenly decide they believe in dragons based on nothing.

An important point is that anyone can say they believe something. I expect there are a lot of theists who say they believe certain things because their religion requires them to, but that they don't actually believe them.
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Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 17, 2016 at 3:02 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 17, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 18, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Doubting Thomas - November 17, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 17, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 18, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 18, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 18, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 18, 2016 at 6:41 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 18, 2016 at 8:24 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Fireball - November 19, 2016 at 12:40 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Huggy Bear - November 22, 2016 at 9:17 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 22, 2016 at 12:19 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 12:47 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 22, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 22, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 22, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 22, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 22, 2016 at 7:26 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Crossless1 - November 18, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 5:48 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by RoadRunner79 - November 18, 2016 at 8:19 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Aegon - November 18, 2016 at 9:19 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 9:31 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by purplepurpose - November 18, 2016 at 7:36 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 7:59 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by purplepurpose - November 18, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 8:42 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 8:59 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by RoadRunner79 - November 18, 2016 at 9:13 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 9:29 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 9:33 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by 8BitAtheist - November 18, 2016 at 10:56 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 18, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 18, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Silver - November 18, 2016 at 5:31 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Catholic_Lady - November 18, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 6:05 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Minimalist - November 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2016 at 1:23 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Minimalist - November 18, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 18, 2016 at 7:07 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 18, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 19, 2016 at 2:37 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 20, 2016 at 9:28 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 19, 2016 at 2:46 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by AceBoogie - November 19, 2016 at 2:47 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 19, 2016 at 3:12 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 19, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 12:52 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 20, 2016 at 3:55 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by theologian - November 20, 2016 at 11:27 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Aegon - November 20, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 12:00 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Whateverist - November 21, 2016 at 1:28 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Homeless Nutter - November 21, 2016 at 2:19 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 22, 2016 at 9:59 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 12:07 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 1:16 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Silver - November 21, 2016 at 1:35 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 1:47 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Silver - November 21, 2016 at 1:50 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Minimalist - November 21, 2016 at 1:52 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 1:51 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Silver - November 21, 2016 at 1:59 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 1:52 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Whateverist - November 21, 2016 at 3:40 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 21, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 1:28 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 21, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 2:27 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 21, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 4:55 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 3:43 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 9:36 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Huggy Bear - November 22, 2016 at 9:54 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 22, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 22, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 22, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 22, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Huggy Bear - November 22, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Huggy Bear - November 23, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 23, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 11:49 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by purplepurpose - November 22, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by robvalue - November 23, 2016 at 1:35 am
RE: Believers, put yourself in my place. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 23, 2016 at 8:41 am

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