RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 22, 2016 at 5:02 pm
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2016 at 5:11 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 22, 2016 at 4:46 pm)Mariosep Wrote: In the meantime I will also dispense myself from further interaction with Simon, because I don't see how he could be of any profit to me because he is into textbooks all the time, nothing from his very own personal thinking at all.
First of all, I am not into textbooks all the time. But I do understand their importance.
Everything I post to you is from my own personal thinking. Just because much of my thinking is informed by texts written by some of the best minds in history, does not mean it is a bad idea to incorporate it into my own thinking.
Quote:And he has no experience himself whatsoever with fathering a baby.
Doesn't matter. I have a very good understanding of the process, and have helped raise my girlfriend's children, more so than the biological.
And I also understand, much more than you do, why babies being conceived and born is in no way comparable to the existence of a universe creating god.
Quote:So, why invest time and labor with him when there is no return of useful knowledge for the effort, useful knowledge arrived at by him, not from canned textbooks, and not from in-experience of life in all its vicissitudes, but from a lifetime self-application to thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, AND grounded on his own experiences of life in all its vicissitudes?
My responses to you have all been from my own thinking, from experience, and a lifetime of thinking about truths, facts, logic (which you have demonstrated you do not understand).
Every response has been based on my own life experiences. Some of my life experiences have been in the study of logic, philosophy and science.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.