RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 23, 2016 at 10:57 pm
Thanks a lot for your presence, dear readers of this thread from yours truly.
My purpose in this thread is to get comments from atheists here on my proof for the existence of God.
I started with the information of my concept of God, namely, God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, then going to the reality of existence outside our mind to encounter all instances of causation, thereby meeting the evidence of causation which evidence establishes the objective existence of God, corresponding to the concept of God, namely, first and foremost God is the creator and operator of the universe and everything with a beginning: that is the whole process of proof from concept of God to object of the existence of God: in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, and in objective existence causing and operating continuously the universe and man and everything with a beginning - see below in ANNEX 1.
Now, I am using the insight that the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence, and upon explaining and coming to our contact with existence being the default status of things in the totality of reality. we come to the realization that existence is of two kinds, the what we could call in core essence the transient existence, and the what we could call the essential existence.
Babies are example of transient existence, and also everything in the universe examined by scientists is transient existence, transient because - and of course including the universe itself - they have a beginning, and they are in transition through succession of changes unto in the last event, to non-existence when the essential existence stops its causation and operation of the transient existence.
So, the conclusion is that the essential existence corresponds to the entity in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, which I call God.
For my exposition of the insight that the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence, see ANNEX 2.
So, atheists, do you have any point or you are pointless?
ANNEX 1
ANNEX 2
My purpose in this thread is to get comments from atheists here on my proof for the existence of God.
I started with the information of my concept of God, namely, God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, then going to the reality of existence outside our mind to encounter all instances of causation, thereby meeting the evidence of causation which evidence establishes the objective existence of God, corresponding to the concept of God, namely, first and foremost God is the creator and operator of the universe and everything with a beginning: that is the whole process of proof from concept of God to object of the existence of God: in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, and in objective existence causing and operating continuously the universe and man and everything with a beginning - see below in ANNEX 1.
Now, I am using the insight that the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence, and upon explaining and coming to our contact with existence being the default status of things in the totality of reality. we come to the realization that existence is of two kinds, the what we could call in core essence the transient existence, and the what we could call the essential existence.
Babies are example of transient existence, and also everything in the universe examined by scientists is transient existence, transient because - and of course including the universe itself - they have a beginning, and they are in transition through succession of changes unto in the last event, to non-existence when the essential existence stops its causation and operation of the transient existence.
So, the conclusion is that the essential existence corresponds to the entity in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, which I call God.
For my exposition of the insight that the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence, see ANNEX 2.
So, atheists, do you have any point or you are pointless?
ANNEX 1
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I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
24th October 2016, 17:27
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This is my proof for God existing.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
What do you think about my proof for the existence of God?
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
22nd November 2016, 10:57
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Now, dear readers here, I like to bring to your thinking this statement from myself, of course it is not any insight that others have not come to, except that I have put it in my own peculiar formulation, here as follows below; and I have repeated it several times in this thread because it is a good platform for the determination of God exists or not.
"The default status of the totality of reality is existence."
Now, how do we get to know existence?
We get to know existence from experience, this is the avenue by which we come to know also our each one's individual self-existence by our experience of consciousness, which consciousness itself is a habitual experience when we are in a state of consciousness.
Well, dear readers here, as you are and I appreciate that very much, always reading this thread, I propose that you think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, that will lead you to see that all our experiences of existence are the evidence of the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
Yesterday, 04:46
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Now, dear atheist posters here, when you have come to your senses, after having decided to abstain from raving mad foul language, personal attacks against your debate opponents, and also no more flippant but empty daring insults on God, like calling God bad names, for example 'bastard rat', let us do some genuine thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, on what I again brought up just in my immediately preceding post, namely, my insight:
"The default status of things in the totality of reality is existence."
Do you anyone atheist here concur with me on that statement?
If not, what is your alternative?
And please, I will not take this standard answer from atheists, “We don’t know.”
Because the thing speaks for itself, namely, if you even with the default status of things in the totality of reality, you cannot finger out what it is for you; then you have no place in a forum whatsoever – unless of course you are here to only throw out raving mad foul language, hurling personal attacks on your debate opponents, and spewing out insults against God.
And ending up with slapping on each other's shoulder, reciprocal kudos.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
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Now, I am into what I call constructive to reality thinking, you are into what I call obstructive to reality thinking.
Think about this insight from yours truly:
“The default status of things in the totality of reality is existence.”
Here is an example of reality, babies from their papa’s and mama’s procreation as their babies’ cause.
Please give an example of reality, dear atheist colleagues here, and no more raving mad foul language at me, attacks on my person instead of my ideas, and also no more blasphemous hate speech against God, in my information on the concept of, namely, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.