RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 23, 2016 at 11:55 pm
(November 23, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Thanks a lot for your presence, dear readers of this thread from yours truly.
My purpose in this thread is to get comments from atheists here on my proof for the existence of God.
I started with the information of my concept of God, namely, God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, then going to the reality of existence outside our mind to encounter all instances of causation, thereby meeting the evidence of causation which evidence establishes the objective existence of God, corresponding to the concept of God, namely, first and foremost God is the creator and operator of the universe and everything with a beginning: that is the whole process of proof from concept of God to object of the existence of God: in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, and in objective existence causing and operating continuously the universe and man and everything with a beginning - see below in ANNEX 1.
That made me dizzy.
(November 23, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Now, I am using the insight that the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence, and upon explaining and coming to our contact with existence being the default status of things in the totality of reality. we come to the realization that existence is of two kinds, the what we could call in core essence the transient existence, and the what we could call the essential existence.
Babies are example of transient existence, and also everything in the universe examined by scientists is transient existence, transient because - and of course including the universe itself - they have a beginning, and they are in transition through succession of changes unto in the last event, to non-existence when the essential existence stops its causation and operation of the transient existence.
What happens to this 'essential existence' once it stops? You say it will stop it's causation at 'non-existence', so does it also cease to exist? Why is it stopping in the first place? Does it run out of energy? Why did it even start? How did it start?
(November 23, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Mariosep Wrote: So, the conclusion is that the essential existence corresponds to the entity in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, which I call God.
What's this 'essential existance' made of? Where is it? Does it have any natural properties? Does it have emotions? Is it even sentient? Why is it your god, and not someone else's? Why call it 'god' at all, when you can name it anything....like the Big Bang, for example?
(November 23, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Mariosep Wrote: For my exposition of the insight that the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence, see ANNEX 2.
So, atheists, do you have any point or you are pointless?
You project an awful lot about the effects of your god, but tell us very little about what it is. Do you even know; or is the word 'god' just a dressing?
“Life is like a grapefruit. Well, it's sort of orangey-yellow and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, too. Oh, and some people have half a one for breakfast.” - Ford Prefect