(June 15, 2011 at 3:12 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: It's not special pleading at all, if you have another source in mind that is inerrant please provide me with it. If you do not, then I am not making a false assumption.
Logical Fallacy: Non Sequitur "It does not follow"
SW Statement: If you can't name something that is inerrant, it means the Bible is inerrant.
Quote:Secondly, everyone has to resort to circular logic eventually (circular reasoning is not invalid, it just doesn't progress), if you do not believe me, give me a reason as to why we should argue logically; remember not to give me a logical reason though or else you will be using circular reasoning!
Logic delivers the goods. No alternative way of thinking has proven so useful. That's why we use it. Not because it's logical.
Quote:So again, I presuppose scripture is the ultimate standard of truth, you presuppose human reason is.
Scripture had roughly 1,200 years to deliver the goods and kept us in darkness. Reason has been ascendant for 200 years and accomplished more in that time than all the 1,200 years of superstition combined.
Quote:I believe human reasoning can be derived from scripture.
Good luck with that.
Quote:I can use outside sources to help refine my understanding of scripture, but I cannot compromise on the fact that scripture is God’s word.
Burden of proof on the claim that the Bible is God's Word is on you.
Quote:So just for the sake of argument, let's both assume my worldview is correct and scripture is in fact inerrant. Why would you try and test its inerrancy with sources you know to be capable of committing error?
The Bible contradicts itself, and so it is not inerrant.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist